John Reilly

[wcorey]

I'm curious in general about the made in Brazil Ms440 thing.
Wouldn't it still have a serial # and first number would be 3 for the country code?
No serial number could still be an oem replacement but would have Stihl part numbers and such...

 

[Time's Standing Stihl]

Imo that should be something discussed between the builder and client on each of these saws. A builder should not be obligated to provide a lifetime warranty. However, it's on the builder and client to make sure they are clear what that warranty should cover if anything at all.

So much of this comes down to clear communication. If John had been on here early to communicate his side of the story maybe the thread would have gone differently.

Yup. Agreed on communication between the two parties, but it seems more than plenty are involved in this deal. How does a saw that wasn’t even listed on OPE get it’s own thread asking for a refund?


Guess from here on out the seller needs to be insured and bonded. Every sale, the money needs to go into some sort of a trust that way the funds can be available at all times if issues arise with the used saw.

 

[Fruecrue]

I'm curious in general about the made in Brazil Ms440 thing.
Wouldn't it still have a serial # and first number would be 3 for the country code?
No serial number could still be an oem replacement but would have Stihl part numbers and such...

There was no serial #, no part # on the cases. Other AM parts included flywheel, coil, recoil assembly, some plastics. I didn’t do a full inventory.


While I have no $ involved here, I certainly have skin in the game as I’ve made claims against the man.
There were other paths this could have taken, all this could’ve been avoided.

Mods deleted one of my posts, I think I know why, and I’ll try to work around that. As I stated in my first post in this thread, there was another saw that hung a ring at the same time. I was in touch with the buyer and he spoke of wanting a Reilly saw.
I called John on the phone and asked if it was OK to give the buyer his #. He said yes, so I did. That buyer doesn’t want to be involved in this thread but I can tell you he went through a lot to have an operational saw again. I have pages and pages of texts and photos as I helped him through the ordeal any way I could.
Before that saw hung, Ken called and said he bought the hybrid, wanted a CFB hybrid to go along with it.
I made mention of the local Reilly built 088 and the three of us were pretty excited to get together.
When Ken’s saw hung, same scenario, pages and pages of texts and pics.

In the end, there were a lot of things that I saw happen that I did not like. No point in airing them all out now, as it would not be constructive.

I never set out to make this a lynching and nothing I’ve said can’t be backed up so it’s certainly not defamation, in fact, I never asked to be involved in any of this.

But here I am, no regrets, and That will be the last time I refer anyone to John for a saw.

 

[Fruecrue]

Yup. Agreed on communication between the two parties, but it seems more than plenty are involved in this deal. How does a saw that wasn’t even listed on OPE get it’s own thread asking for a refund?


Guess from here on out the seller needs to be insured and bonded. Every sale, the money needs to go into some sort of a trust that way the funds can be available at all times if issues arise with the used saw.

I believe you’ve missed the point of the thread, Clint.
How long can a guy owe you money and stop answering his phone before you’re allowed to tell others?

 

[Kw trees]

You ether gonna pay or not?

 

[Fruecrue]

This is John Reilly. Thank you Dave for helping me out with getting logged in..

This is my first opportunity to respond to these alleged posts and accusations.

It is a bit unfair to have a person under attack or to damage a reputation and character through slander and without hearing both sides. I have been doing this for 7 years, and have never had issues with anyone - on the contrary.

I never claimed I would not make good in a refund, no matter the circumstance either way. Right is Right!!!

Here are the issues:

The saw I had purchased from Dave Smith is in fact a Brazilian Stihl MS460 - OEM crank shaft... so on.

When the saw came back to me after I agreed to repair it the meteor cylinder failed. I did everything I could to locate an OEM 460 cylinder. Ultimately, I used the best of the 2 that I could locate at that time from very reputable people. While all is irrelevant at this time, I was more than happy to make it right and refund rather than go around and around and asked that he wait until I was able to sell the saw for the refund, in which case seemed to be ok!

Here's where it becomes a bigger issue. Finding out from another friend that this thread or feed was going on without my knowledge and seeing the slander and deffimation of character going on, without even knowing both sides of the ENTIRE story, just blows me away and shows me what I was dealing with all along.

I have always had great and positive people and business associates. I have always done right, and will continue on that path. Anyone who wants to feed into a here say thread, it's now on them.

Please remember there are always 2 sides to every story. This thread is way too much, I cant believe this has gone on the way it has. Again, I never said I would not refund this guy!!!

At the end of the day, this saw came back to me after they had their way with it, missing parts, cylinder was way over tightened and who knows what transpired when it was taken apart! Just sayin'....



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Where does this Brazilian 460 come in to play?
The saw in question was a 440 bottom end.

 

[mgr1]

Pff what a thread.
How long does he need to pay 1000$
with his 100% positieve business and never had this happened?

 

[chipper1]

I was outside of my jurisdiction and off duty, don’t tell me how to do my job, Bub.

All I hear is excuses, I want my money back .

 

[chipper1]

Well.....one fella says one thing, a few others say another. Chances are good that's all we will ever have.

If anyone directly involved has anything to add, do it now.

I'll lock this at noon my time.

What time is it.

 

[Fruecrue]

Hey @Kw trees, a box just landed on my doorstep and I’m not opening it this time, lol.

 

[Kw trees]

Hey @Kw trees, a box just landed on my doorstep and I’m not opening it this time, lol.

Pssh you know atlest a legit 440

 

[Kw trees]

Screw the saw remember there’s a white powder in there and only 3 things come to mind with that

Coke meth or carpet cleaner
If it’s the first 2 remember sharing is caring

 

[Jetmd]

Best wishes to both parties.

Tell the truth, do the right thing.

Those 2 habits have never failed me in live...EVER!

Chet

 

[Time's Standing Stihl]

I believe you’ve missed the point of the thread, Clint.
How long can a guy owe you money and stop answering his phone before you’re allowed to tell others?

Didn’t miss the point at all. I’m not on either side, Just stating how i see it.

I guess I look at things differently, if i buy something USED i take on responsibility for that item. Shiiit happenes, seems quite often to me but i don’t go online and start bashing.

Did John not willingly take the saw back and fix it on his dime??? If thats the case, how do you not know he wont pay it back??? Time’s are still tough for some, he could be living from job to job and selling this saw caught him up from past debts. I dont know and neither do any of you.

 

[Mastermind]

Maybe give him some time to respond???

It took a week last time. How long should we give?

What time is it.

Just got in from feeding 42 cows in 12° weather. Every gate, froze shut with ice. My wife and I rolled out hay by hand in three different pastures. And, like as been said, this thread has very little to do with OPE.

The only reason I've allowed it to stay is because the saw community is small, and tight knit. We all know each other, and most of us have broke bread together. We all deserve to know the facts when a situation like this happens.

 

[Mastermind]

Didn’t miss the point at all. I’m not on either side, Just stating how i see it.

I guess I look at things differently, if i buy something USED i take on responsibility for that item. Shiiit happenes, seems quite often to me but i don’t go online and start bashing.

Did John not willingly take the saw back and fix it on his dime??? If thats the case, how do you not know he wont pay it back??? Time’s are still tough for some, he could be living from job to job and selling this saw caught him up from past debts. I dont know and neither do any of you.

Clint.....I think you've missed quite a lot of the details But I get where you are coming from.

I'm gonna shut this down now.

Until new happens, theres no point in rehashing the same stuff.

 

[Fruecrue]

Didn’t miss the point at all. I’m not on either side, Just stating how i see it.

I guess I look at things differently, if i buy something USED i take on responsibility for that item. Shiiit happenes, seems quite often to me but i don’t go online and start bashing.

Did John not willingly take the saw back and fix it on his dime??? If thats the case, how do you not know he wont pay it back??? Time’s are still tough for some, he could be living from job to job and selling this saw caught him up from past debts. I dont know and neither do any of you.

I can see your point of view, but a ported saw is always “used”.
How many builders have a two tank warranty?
Yes, some people choose not to air it out. Some sweep it under the rug and move on, that’s a choice for any individual that finds themselves in that situation.


He sold a solo 694 hybrid at the same time, saw was in transit to its owner, paid in full, at the time he told Ken he’d have Tear the saw down, inspect it and sell the saw before he paid him back, which to me, felt more like negotiating or pressuring Ken to keep it. He followed that by begging Ken to just keep it and run it before making the decision to send it back.

He told Ken it needed to be torn down and inspected because I had it apart, and may have assembled it wrong, that I can understand.
He told the owner of the 088 that he should tear down the saw, but a new OEM 3120 piston, have that machined to fit, assemble, and run it.

Which is it?
Can anyone build a saw or only certain people?
Does it change when it suits him?
I’ve known people who talk fast, aggressive and from both sides of their mouth.
I distance myself from those people.

 

[hseII]

This is John Reilly. Thank you Dave for helping me out with getting logged in..

This is my first opportunity to respond to these alleged posts and accusations.

It is a bit unfair to have a person under attack or to damage a reputation and character through slander and without hearing both sides. I have been doing this for 7 years, and have never had issues with anyone - on the contrary.

I never claimed I would not make good in a refund, no matter the circumstance either way. Right is Right!!!

Here are the issues:

The saw I had purchased from Dave Smith is in fact a Brazilian Stihl MS460 - OEM crank shaft... so on.

When the saw came back to me after I agreed to repair it the meteor cylinder failed. I did everything I could to locate an OEM 460 cylinder. Ultimately, I used the best of the 2 that I could locate at that time from very reputable people. While all is irrelevant at this time, I was more than happy to make it right and refund rather than go around and around and asked that he wait until I was able to sell the saw for the refund, in which case seemed to be ok!

Here's where it becomes a bigger issue. Finding out from another friend that this thread or feed was going on without my knowledge and seeing the slander and deffimation of character going on, without even knowing both sides of the ENTIRE story, just blows me away and shows me what I was dealing with all along.

I have always had great and positive people and business associates. I have always done right, and will continue on that path. Anyone who wants to feed into a here say thread, it's now on them.

Please remember there are always 2 sides to every story. This thread is way too much, I cant believe this has gone on the way it has. Again, I never said I would not refund this guy!!!

At the end of the day, this saw came back to me after they had their way with it, missing parts, cylinder was way over tightened and who knows what transpired when it was taken apart! Just sayin'....


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Over the last 6 years I’ve had 3 saws pop from 3 reputable builders who contribute on this site: none of them took a month to commit to correcting each saw nor did any of them ignore me.

All 3 of them made it right ASAP: In other words the expectations bar has been set pretty high on this forum.


You continue to deflect & throw jabs at the individual who inspected this saw that you were paid for.

Your theorizing leads me to believe you feel the owner doesn’t have right to know what’s broken on a saw he purchased from you.

Funny thing is those 3 I mentioned, they did none of that.

I’m certain there has been no Nefarious acts by the individual who inspected this saw & your deflections make it obvious just what kind of person those who did business with you were dealing with all along.


This saga has been going on for over a month: this isn’t something that started last week. To try to lead others to believe something else is simply dishonest.


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[Mastermind]

Sometime yesterday John Reilly asked for this thread to be unlocked so he could post. After 20 hours or so, no posts. He did manage to like a post at some point, so he is able to log in.

I've taken a lot of heat over this thread. I've gotten messages about how unfair this is to the seller, and how it makes other people wary of selling saws here.

Here's the thing. I didn't start this thread.

But some people think I should have deleted it. How fair would that be to Terry Landrum, or Chainsaw Jim, or Jason Stratton? Those guys got outed for being crooks here, and I'm fairly sure that without our members shining a light on their dealings, a great many more people would have lost their saws or money.

Just because you like someone, and think you know them doesn't mean that they are exactly who or what you think they are. Now I'm not saying anything either way about John. It's not my place to go there. But I'd like to be able to see how this turns out.

This all sorta got to me yesterday. I'd heard from one too many people who were against allowing this thread. I nearly stepped down from my moderator job over it actually. I got over that though....now I'm even more determined to see this thru.

This thread will stay unlocked until John makes that statement he said he wanted to post yesterday.....and probably longer.

I got my shipping done yesterday, and I'm just idling today for a few hours. I'll be here ready and willing to hear anyone's complaints in real time.

Bring it on.

 

[av8or3]

Better man than I.