Inside the MS462C

[MustangMike]

For Stihl to replace the 461 with a saw (the MS500) that is a lb lighter and 8/10 Hp more powerful, well ... I think that is a big move, and the 461 is a well respected saw.

If you view the 462 as a replacement for the 441, and the MS500 as a replacement for the 461, both saws are noticeably lighter and more powerful than their replacements. Based on actual ccs (and not the designated #s), I think that is the fairest way to view it.

 

[Wilhelm]

I don't have the slightest clue regarding specs of the 441 & 461, had to Google it.

Yes, Stihl will do good superceding their own products.

But I don't see them leaving their competition behind unless Stihl is being let to do so.

What I'm wondering is the rated noise level of the 462, it's quite a scream at 121dB (if I got that right).
Considering noise regulations I see Stihl having to plug the muffler to reduce the decibel level, then again maybe they've buttered the regulations body enough so they don't have to.

 

[Locust Cutter]

Really looked good even before porting.

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I don't think I'd change it at all from there. I will still have a ported 390xp, because it's a 390xp. But I will have t handle the 462 and 500i see how they feel and then see how the price tag moves me. Might very well be worth it, or not. Time will tell.

 

[StephK87]

I will still have a ported 390xp, because it's a 390xp.

Something like this?

@StephK87 , ich bleibe der Marke meiner Wahl vorerst Treu, hat mich noch nie im Stich gelassen seit sie mir mein Vater in meine damaligen Teenager Haende gab.
Stihl is mir onehin viel zu teuer in Betracht das ich nur eigenes Brennholz schneide.
Gruss aus Kroatien
W.

Also von den 16 Sägen welche ich zurzeit hobbymäßig horte, sind 6 Stück aus Hamburg, zwei davon 79er, so isses ja net Bin aber generell keiner Marke böse so lange die Säge gut geht

 

[weedkilla]

I don't have the slightest clue regarding specs of the 441 & 461, had to Google it.

Yes, Stihl will do good superceding their own products.

But I don't see them leaving their competition behind unless Stihl is being let to do so.

What I'm wondering is the rated noise level of the 462, it's quite a scream at 121dB (if I got that right).
Considering noise regulations I see Stihl having to plug the muffler to reduce the decibel level, then again maybe they've buttered the regulations body enough so they don't have to.

I am looking at this quite differently to you. Stihl, husqvarna and dolmar are all currently selling saws that do not match the performance of the 044,046,372oe and 7900. They have gained weight, mufflers have been choked and work is required to to make a new saw run like it should out of the box. This is the first 70ish cc saw that is a reversal of this trend.
This is most notable to those who are brand loyal to stihl, but it is a reality with all of the major brands. To see a company use the technology at their disposal to not just meet ever increasingly stringent EPA regulations but to exceed previous performance targets at the same time is worthy of being celebrated. It may not be a massive shift forward, but it's the first shift in the right direction for a long time in this class of saw.

 

[RI Chevy]

Who the heck would be crazy enough to be brand loyal to Stihl???? [emoji3]

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[stihl livin]

Who the heck would be crazy enough to be brand loyal to Stihl???? [emoji3]

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Some guy from the ocean state by the name jeff

 

[RI Chevy]

Lol. i am sorry. just can't help myself.

 

[stihl livin]

Lol. i am sorry. just can't help myself.
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Do they have the same don't ask don't tell policy?

 

[Locust Cutter]

Something like this?

Also von den 16 Sägen welche ich zurzeit hobbymäßig horte, sind 6 Stück aus Hamburg, zwei davon 79er, so isses ja net Bin aber generell keiner Marke böse so lange die Säge gut geht

YES!

 

[hseII]

I don't have the slightest clue regarding specs of the 441 & 461, had to Google it.

Yes, Stihl will do good superceding their own products.

But I don't see them leaving their competition behind unless Stihl is being let to do so.

What I'm wondering is the rated noise level of the 462, it's quite a scream at 121dB (if I got that right).
Considering noise regulations I see Stihl having to plug the muffler to reduce the decibel level, then again maybe they've buttered the regulations body enough so they don't have to.

Dolmar doesn't have the support here that the others do.

After running both, I still prefer my MS461 to the 7910.

Nothing wrong with the 7910, but I like the commonality of parts, B&Cs, Filters, etc., along with many other things that go along with 35yr established platforms known as the 1122s & 1128s.

I am however interested in the replacement platforms, hence,

 

[RI Chevy]

Nice Heath. [emoji106]

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[MustangMike]

I am looking at this quite differently to you. Stihl, husqvarna and dolmar are all currently selling saws that do not match the performance of the 044,046,372oe and 7900. They have gained weight, mufflers have been choked and work is required to to make a new saw run like it should out of the box. This is the first 70ish cc saw that is a reversal of this trend.
This is most notable to those who are brand loyal to stihl, but it is a reality with all of the major brands. To see a company use the technology at their disposal to not just meet ever increasingly stringent EPA regulations but to exceed previous performance targets at the same time is worthy of being celebrated. It may not be a massive shift forward, but it's the first shift in the right direction for a long time in this class of saw.

Exactly, it is like when the automakers finally ended the long performance drought from the late 60s!

And, if you check the weight on the soon to be released 572 (same cc as the 462), it did not go on a diet!!!

 

[CapitaineHaddoc]

Specs are impressive indeed. But they have to be impressive, just think about it, the best power/weight ratio for a Stihl was still the 064... and it was realeased in 1984 I think.

 

[CapitaineHaddoc]

Exactly, it is like when the automakers finally ended the long performance drought from the late 60s!

And, if you check the weight on the soon to be released 572 (same cc as the 462), it did not go on a diet!!!

You're right but, I bet we'll see something bigger than just 72cc on this 572 crankcase.

 

[MustangMike]

the best power/weight ratio for a Stihl was still the 064... and it was realeased in 1984 I think.

BUT ... not with M Tronics and spring AV!!!

The MS500 should be a lot like a new 064, in a lighter version!

 

[CapitaineHaddoc]

BUT ... not with M Tronics and spring AV!!!

The MS500 should be a lot like a new 064, in a lighter version!

I just hope it will have less issues... The old loggers around here had many issues with the early 064. My 064 is almost bullet-proof, but I know it's not as light as the 1st ones.

 

[Stihl working Hard]

Dolmar doesn't have the support here that the others do.

After running both, I still prefer my MS461 to the 7910.

Nothing wrong with the 7910, but I like the commonality of parts, B&Cs, Filters, etc., along with many other things that go along with 35yr established platforms known as the 1122s & 1128s.

I am however interested in the replacement platforms, hence,

Nice 661 there Heath is that a 36" bar your running my friend

 

[hseII]

Nice 661 there Heath is that a 36" bar your running my friend

I threw that 32" 3/8" on quick.

It will run a 36" .404" most of the time.

 

[Stihl working Hard]

I threw that 32" 3/8" on quick.

It will run a 36" .404" most of the time.

I have always wanted to run .404 chain but my dealer advised against it in case of spinning a bearing in the case due to heat Iam in 2 minds about it myself