IEL-Pioneer thread

[old_sir_henry]

Surpisingly my 1200A has arrived already from France today. Here are some pics:



The coating is mostly in very poor condition. Even though large areas are already stripped bare, one can easily pull patches
of the remaining paint off the body...

 

[old_sir_henry]

Surprisingly the saw is extremly clean, no sawdust and no clumps of old chain oil at all.
Looking at the clutch and the area around it, the saw can hardly have seen much wood in its past.



That's a claim!

 

[rocketnorton]

eye might have a pioneer chain, depend on bar you have or want.

 

[old_sir_henry]

An original Pioneer chain would be nice thing for the saw.
Since no Pioneer bar seems to be reachable I'm thinking of using an old Sachs-Dolmar bar which would
need 56 drive links / 3/8" pitch / 1.5mm (.058).
But then before looking out for any missing parts I'll first will have to dismantle
the entire saw and check what else might be needed.
E.g. the push-rod of the oiler doesn't seem to be original, its button is wrong and it can be
pulled further off the pump's housing than it's rest-position.
Spike bar would be nice to have as well.

 

[rocketnorton]

i might have a bar.
will look at chains.
got 4 1200s hear, might have spike, oil pump, too.

 

[old_sir_henry]

This is how the pushrod of the handoiler looks like:


Defintely not a factory supplied part, the button isn't a button but something else, the grove for the retainer clip and the clip itself are missing.
So an original push rod would be something I'd like to have.

In the meantime I have started to overhaul some of the external parts of the saw:


Since the existing paint was in such bad shape I decided to do full body repaint.


I was able to pull the sticker off the body with the entire paint remaining fixed at the sticker's back...


... from where I removed it with cautious application of some stain.

 

[rocketnorton]

i can fix you up with the oil pump.
not so much on dawg, only have one.
as far as pioneer chain goes, i only got 2 small ones, but both are on/with bars. rest are 400 & 404.
one measures 5/8 across 3 rivets. on 16" roller nose pioneer bar.
the other is nos 18" pioneer bar w/new pioneer chain. top in pic.
not sure if either will work on 1200.
can check later.

 

[merc_man]

Picked up this oldy. I need a carb clean and probly a diaphram kit. Anyone know what the kit part number is that i need. I believe its a model HC.

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[rocketnorton]

@ml12

 

[old_sir_henry]

i can fix you up with the oil pump.
not so much on dawg, only have one.
as far as pioneer chain goes, i only got 2 small ones, but both are on/with bars. rest are 400 & 404.
one measures 5/8 across 3 rivets. on 16" roller nose pioneer bar.
the other is nos 18" pioneer bar w/new pioneer chain. top in pic.
not sure if either will work on 1200.
can check later.

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I'd like to opt for the pump.
With bar & chain, I'm stuck to 3/8" pitch since my clutch-drum & sprocket is 3/8.
If you could provide some detail info about the 2 uppermost bars in your pic ...
And pls send me a price tag for the pump via PN
Thanks

 

[rocketnorton]

the bars [and chains] are nos.
top is 18", 3/8, .058, 3/8" slot. it is windsor chain, not pioneer.
next is 32", .404, .058, 3/8 slot. pioneer .404 semi chisel chain. windsor tip.
bottom bar is same spec as #2. couple test cuts on it.

i have no idea on oil pump.

 

[merc_man]

Well that was a lot of work compared to a modern saw to get the carb out the old iel pioneer. Now just waiting for the kit to come in.

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[p61 western]

Well that was a lot of work compared to a modern saw to get the carb out the old iel pioneer. Now just waiting for the kit to come in.

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Here's a lot of info, and probably some helpful carb stuff for you. https://www.mediafire.com/?cxxmbm1tjs422

 

[merc_man]

Here's a lot of info, and probably some helpful carb stuff for you. https://www.mediafire.com/?cxxmbm1tjs422

Thanks will have a look.

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[p61 western]

Thanks will have a look.

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There is lots to go through, but will be worth your time.

 

[merc_man]

There is lots to go through, but will be worth your time.

Holy moly that old saw is in ther. Thers a lot.of great info ther.

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[p61 western]

Holy moly that old saw is in ther. Thers a lot.of great info ther.

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Yep I figured it would be in there.

 

[old_sir_henry]

Yep I figured it would be in there.

Found some stuff concerning the 1150 and the 1200 I didn't have yet.
Bookmarked the site. Thanks for the link!

 

[p61 western]

Found some stuff concerning the 1150 and the 1200 I didn't have yet.
Bookmarked the site. Thanks for the link!

Your welcome, and glad it was some help.

 

[merc_man]

Almost forgot i had this saw. It was tucked away on the back of my shelf.
Fired it up and put away with the rest of the saws.

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