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I generally find that if it's leaned enough to score it should be obvious something is wrong. I almost never pres/vac test one,if it has a airleak it should be easy to tell by how it runs.

90% of the scored saws I see don't have a airleak.
 

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The husky dealor here has never once had the parts I needed,always have to order and it's usually from across the ocean and it cost a extra 15$ to get it here.

If they had a good dealor here that actually had parts they could hurt stihl but having to wait days on a part for a saw that needs to be running is to much for most.

We run stihls here and not because there superior but because you can get parts for it.
 

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Just go's to show..If you find a proper mechanically savvy dealership …USE IT !
The distance between garden /horticultural /forestry dealers over here is probably much less than in the US ! so i dare say that is a real pain for you boys.
I know from some things that make there way to me that there are some less than excusable things that happen and sometimes I can't go along with the diagnosis on the condition of the machine to the degree that the only option is to get a new one !
Im not a Dealer so have no new equipment to sell, I make money from service and repair . Dealers I'm sure have a Big investment in buildings ,stock ,spares and staff so they need profit. One would hope if they have a good rep then they can be profitable too . Iv been using the same car Garage to have work done for the last 30 yrs…there not the cheapest, but they are a good bunch and i trust the work ,so I keep supporting them.
 
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If you can't rant here, where can you?

All dealers are not the same - if you find a good one, support them if you want them to be around when you need them.

Differences between an authorized sales outlet (e.g. Lowes, etc.) and a servicing dealer. Anyone know if the 'Gold' level dealers, etc. are generally better? I guess, of course, they could be technically proficient but a jerk or snob to deal with.

I don't think that you can stereotype by brand.

Told a story before about a guy an hour or so from here that just retired. His shop looked like a disaster - piles of saws and parts all over the place. Young guy walked in and started to describe a problem with his saw. Fred said, 'Your spark arrestor is clogged'. Showed the young guy how to remove and clean it. Charged him $5. After, I asked him how he knew it was the spark arrestor, as opposed to all of the other potential fuel or carb or . . . . problems. Fred said that he just knew.

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I just wish I had a good Husky dealer close by to try out their stuff. The only practical choice near me is Stihl. Then I'll still drive 20 miles out of the way to the mom & pop shop that remember me when I walk in and give great service. A good dealer is priceless.
 

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the stihl dealer i use is over 20 miles from me and knows me by name when i go in. i also tell my friends about them and try to get them more business .he has even invited me to come play with saws this summer
 

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There is always a few rotten dealers, where I live I wouldnt bought a Stihl, both dealers are *s-word. One of them sell farmer equipment the other one sell bicycles, it's actually ashame that they are allowed to sell Stihl at all, because they are clueless when it comes to chainsaw.

All 3 JRed dealers are great, good mechanicers and they keep a decent amount on parts, probleby why there are so many reds around here.

Huskies, I have to drive 2 hours, but then, that dealer is awesome. I have closer dealers but they dont have mechanicers, but I just go to one of the JRed dealers if I need anything to my Husky.

You did smart to not buy that 550 Dave, when their mechanicer can't give you a decent answer there is no reason to spend a cent there.
 

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If you can't rant here, where can you?

All dealers are not the same - if you find a good one, support them if you want them to be around when you need them.

Differences between an authorized sales outlet (e.g. Lowes, etc.) and a servicing dealer. Anyone know if the 'Gold' level dealers, etc. are generally better? I guess, of course, they could be technically proficient but a jerk or snob to deal with.

I don't think that you can stereotype by brand.

Told a story before about a guy an hour or so from here that just retired. His shop looked like a disaster - piles of saws and parts all over the place. Young guy walked in and started to describe a problem with his saw. Fred said, 'Your spark arrestor is clogged'. Showed the young guy how to remove and clean it. Charged him $5. After, I asked him how he knew it was the spark arrestor, as opposed to all of the other potential fuel or carb or . . . . problems. Fred said that he just knew.

Philbert
Philbert, that sounds like a guy up by Andy & Sarah.


John
 

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There is a place um in the Kalkaska Michigan area called dupies they have any used part from motorcycles quads saws blowers and pretty much any small engine ever made. It's great but you have to dig I'm pretty sure they are dealers for several brands.
 

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Here in my country we dont have theese problems , the stihl control the dealers if they have tools , parts and if the customers have any problems .
my 441 c dont start new in a box , i dont want to touch it because of warranty , the dealer just say come and get a new one , after two days the distributor call me and ask me if i have any kind of problems with my dealer.
so i think is more dealers the problem that stihl, husky, and others
 

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What's the point of pressure and vacuum testing saws?


Every dealership I frequent around here says the exact same thing about every saw I get with a bad top end. "It was straight gassed"

I know one of our Stihl dealers here has never changed a seal in a saw. This fall I asked their mechanic if I could take a look at their Stihl seal puller. The guy said they don't have one, he then told me that he has never once had to replace a seal on a saw.
Theese stihl seal pullers are expensive tools .......... no money for spent :risas3:
 

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One thing I like with Husky is their price on service tools, it may not be on all their tools, but their crank service tool was super cheap.
 

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Really not that unsual, regardless of brand. Maybe I'll go on a little industry rant here myself. Husky and Sthl have largely created this mess by their respective dealer sign up programs. Stihl wants to be everywhere that could possible sell units. Hardware chains, all of the John Deere dealers, any big operation that can move product. Husky takes a similar approach, and of course insists that dealers be full line dealers that sell wheeled goods. And as if they didn't already have enough dealers in most markets, they have begun to target stores that aren't really in the OPE business such as Artic Cat and Polaris dealers. The days of the traditional "saw shop" are mostly gone. Most of the guys on this site are better saw techs than you'll find at the typical dealer these days.

So what you get from all that is an awful lot of dealers who have a primary focus on a lot of things other than chainsaws. Their shops and parts departments are geared towards working on sleds and tractors, not saws. Sounds kind of stupid for two companies who are known primarily for their chainsaws to do that, doesn't it? But that's the reality that exists out there right now, and that's what many of you guys are running into. The relentless drive for more sales numbers always trumps any concern for the ability to service the product. Both companies offer all the tools, technical assistance and documentation for dealers to provide competent service. But far too many dealers are too busy doing other things to bother with it.

My rep told me that out of the 82 dealers in his territory I'm one of just 4 that can/will split a case and do bottom end work. Most dealers don't have a mighty vac or any special tools, and half the dealers still cant even program an AT carb. So, we get guys who will drive hours, and pass a lot of other dealers, to do business with us. Some of those lousy dealers that frustrate many of you guys are actually great for me. :)

Bob,

First, how have you been buddy? Two weeks ago it was like the spring rush had hit then last week it turned cold again and we came to a screeching halt, but Tuesday my tech at the other store decided to quit so I have been trying to keep both shops going myself.

Second, I know exactly what you mean, we are a full line dealer for all brands that we carry, and it is hard to convince management that it is worth it to stock $50.00 chainsaw parts over $300.00 zero turn parts when space is limited. On the same note though, my rep has told me that we are just about the last shop in the area (I think there may still be one other) that will do any kind of bottom end work at all and he has brought us several units that other dealers couldn't get right.

Joe
 

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I was in the market for a top handle saw a year ago and stopped at the local red max shop. They had some old stock saws that they were discounting a little. I was gonna buy the saw and two good chains then he asked me for my arborist cert. I thought he was joking! He said he would never sell a non safety chain to anyone that's not certified. That and the fact that he told me that red max bought husqvarna out, I graciously took my leave.
 

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One thing I like with Husky is their price on service tools, it may not be on all their tools, but their crank service tool was super cheap.
Yes i agree with about 300 euros you can buy about 80% of the husqy tools
with 300 euros you can only buy one stihl tool
 

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Really not that unsual, regardless of brand. Maybe I'll go on a little industry rant here myself. Husky and Sthl have largely created this mess by their respective dealer sign up programs. Stihl wants to be everywhere that could possible sell units. Hardware chains, all of the John Deere dealers, any big operation that can move product. Husky takes a similar approach, and of course insists that dealers be full line dealers that sell wheeled goods. And as if they didn't already have enough dealers in most markets, they have begun to target stores that aren't really in the OPE business such as Artic Cat and Polaris dealers. The days of the traditional "saw shop" are mostly gone. Most of the guys on this site are better saw techs than you'll find at the typical dealer these days.

So what you get from all that is an awful lot of dealers who have a primary focus on a lot of things other than chainsaws. Their shops and parts departments are geared towards working on sleds and tractors, not saws. Sounds kind of stupid for two companies who are known primarily for their chainsaws to do that, doesn't it? But that's the reality that exists out there right now, and that's what many of you guys are running into. The relentless drive for more sales numbers always trumps any concern for the ability to service the product. Both companies offer all the tools, technical assistance and documentation for dealers to provide competent service. But far too many dealers are too busy doing other things to bother with it.

My rep told me that out of the 82 dealers in his territory I'm one of just 4 that can/will split a case and do bottom end work. Most dealers don't have a mighty vac or any special tools, and half the dealers still cant even program an AT carb. So, we get guys who will drive hours, and pass a lot of other dealers, to do business with us. Some of those lousy dealers that frustrate many of you guys are actually great for me. :)

Very good explanation Bob.

For me, I simply have no use for any local dealer. If I want something, this guy right here :rolleyes: is only a phone call away. He gave me a incredible price on my 550xpg (less shipped than I could buy a xp here), he's sent me my parts when i need something. Hell, Bob even sourced 1 of only 3 NOS 357 wrap handles that are left for me. Any future saws I buy from husq/jonsered will come from Spike. I haven't walked into a local dealership to buy a saw since 2011. Shopping from the keyboard works for me.;)
 

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The funny thing is its hard to warranty OPE properly when most places swap parts rather than diagnose/fix. One of the supposed advantages of buying a premium price product with a motor is you can keep it running and buy parts into the future. The proboem with Stih/Husk Australia is they sell parts so highly priced it makes no sense to do much in most rebuild cases other than to purchase a new product. I don't use dealers for to much but I can't see dealers going back to the way they once were as much as we all would like it.
Couldn't agree more :applaudit:
 

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i told the stihl dealer i deal with i was interested in pioneer p42 parts and saws about 6 months ago , well out of the blue today he called and said he has one a guy is trading in on a new saw and asked me if i was interested in it . so going in the morning to go see about it
 
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