Husqvarna 564xp (g) fuel inject

[Woodpecker]

buddy of mine flies freight for DHL in a 777. he sees the manifest on what they are carrying of course, thats the majority, just plain old plastic consumer junk.

The funny thing about it is the solar panels and wind turbines that are supposed to be environmentally friendly and provide clean energy are, you guessed it, designed exactly the same as the rest of the throw away garbage manufactured today. No way to easily recycle the LiOn batteries with their conveniently hidden giant carbon footprint either.

 

[cus_deluxe]

The funny thing about it is the solar panels and wind turbines that are supposed to be environmentally friendly and provide clean energy are, you guessed it, designed exactly the same as the rest of the throw away garbage manufactured today. No way to easily recycle the LiOn batteries with their conveniently hidden giant carbon footprint either.

yeah didnt even think about all the batteries your dent puller fleet must go through.

 

[Outback]

When you do the math on the batteries and there life span. Electric cars have a larger carbon footprint than gas ones. The more range they have the worse they are. There is no free lunch. Arguably they do create better air quality in urban areas. There's a Tesla in Europe that has over a million miles on it but its gone through several batteries and motors over it life span and again its the battery that really f's the benefits.

I don't understand how if the computer is monitoring the fuel they can't just put a little red led on the top to flash at you when it maxes out the fuel settings. Autotune and mtronics should never run lean without stopping the saw. I'm waiting for the 666xp.

 

[cuinrearview]

yeah didnt even think about all the batteries your dent puller fleet must go through.

Pfft, he's still on lead acid. Can't be without when it gets below freezing. #bradgonnapull

 

[Woodpecker]

yeah didnt even think about all the batteries your dent puller fleet must go through.

Exactly! First world problems

 

[Stump Shot]

When you do the math on the batteries and there life span. Electric cars have a larger carbon footprint than gas ones. The more range they have the worse they are. There is no free lunch. Arguably they do create better air quality in urban areas. There's a Tesla in Europe that has over a million miles on it but its gone through several batteries and motors over it life span and again its the battery that really f's the benefits.

I don't understand how if the computer is monitoring the fuel they can't just put a little red led on the top to flash at you when it maxes out the fuel settings. Autotune and mtronics should never run lean without stopping the saw. I'm waiting for the 666xp.

The new autotunes I'm seeing come in with air leaks are no longer blown up as well. The operators report fuel starvation issue and stop running the saw. Which tells me they no longer go all the way, rather just so far from normal range and quit. It's a lot more economical to be able to just fix the original problem and not let the saw manifest several others besides.

 

[cus_deluxe]

I'm waiting for the 666xp.

amen

 

[ZERO]

I haven’t found a battery saw that I would rather use over an echo 2511 for climbing/tree work.

The power to weight ratio is unbeatable, especially when ported correctly.

 

[Tor R]

The new autotunes I'm seeing come in with air leaks are no longer blown up as well. The operators report fuel starvation issue and stop running the saw. Which tells me they no longer go all the way, rather just so far from normal range and quit. It's a lot more economical to be able to just fix the original problem and not let the saw manifest several others besides.

As you describe it, it is the customer who often experiences fuel starvation and chooses to take the saw in for service.
The ideal carb system should have gone into safety mode when the values have gone far beyond what is normal.
It would have saved customers and warranties for some unnecessary full breakdowns.

 

[Stump Shot]

As you describe it, it is the customer who often experiences fuel starvation and chooses to take the saw in for service.
The ideal carb system should have gone into safety mode when the values have gone far beyond what is normal.
It would have saved customers and warranties for some unnecessary full breakdowns.

I'd hazard a guess that right now just in America alone there are blue millions of vehicles driving down the road with their check engine lights on that have been in that condition for long periods of time with little to no thought of taking it in to get looked at.
Putting a light on a saw would do much the same, if the saw still runs, even poorly, most won't stop if they have more wood to cut.
However, with the saw no longer running in a manner that work can still be performed, there's little choice left in the matter to take it out of service and either repair or replace.

 

[redline4]

I'd hazard a guess that right now just in America alone there are blue millions of vehicles driving down the road with their check engine lights on that have been in that condition for long periods of time with little to no thought of taking it in to get looked at.
Putting a light on a saw would do much the same, if the saw still runs, even poorly, most won't stop if they have more wood to cut.
However, with the saw no longer running in a manner that work can still be performed, there's little choice left in the matter to take it out of service and either repair or replace.

That's why the newer diesels essentially shut down with an emission system issue. It forces the driver to repair the issue vs ignore it and keep going.

 

[EFSM]

Strato charged engines produce more torque than their traditional ported cousins due to better cylinder scavenging.
Also wouldn't a wider bore provide for more port area?

Yes, and yes. On your second point, a wider bore does obviously give more port area, but width doesn't increase area as fast as height.
On your first point, that is true, but I wonder if it isn't despite the short stroke, not because of it.

 

[Tor R]

I'd hazard a guess that right now just in America alone there are blue millions of vehicles driving down the road with their check engine lights on that have been in that condition for long periods of time with little to no thought of taking it in to get looked at.
Putting a light on a saw would do much the same, if the saw still runs, even poorly, most won't stop if they have more wood to cut.
However, with the saw no longer running in a manner that work can still be performed, there's little choice left in the matter to take it out of service and either repair or replace.

I understand what you mean, but in today's modern electronic brain, the system goes into emergency mode, you get home yes, but not something you are interested in driving mile after mile in.

The same should be possible for chainsaws too, you can manage to fell one tree, and get yourself pretty much done, but not something you bother to continue with to the next tree with.
After all these years with electronic carburetors I don't understand why they haven't developed it to be more advanced when the chainsaw adjustment goes far beyond what is considered normal values.

 

[FergusonTO35]

My father had a late model Buick which was a very good car except for an intermittent stall. No codes, nothing. Between the dealer, independent shop, and me it was finally determined that the computer would shut down the engine when the catalyst overheated. I don't know if that was by design or not, never could get a straight answer out of anyone. I offered to "fix" the catalysts for him but he sold it.

 

[M&Rtree]

All my Husqvarna purchases have come down to online at this point. All 3 local stores have went Echo and Stihl unfortunately. Probably take a few months to get the 564xp serviced if warranty was needed. Sucks but Husky has pulled out of Central Florida almost entirely it seems. Crazy with all the storms the last few year's...

 

[bwalker]

All my Husqvarna purchases have come down to online at this point. All 3 local stores have went Echo and Stihl unfortunately. Probably take a few months to get the 564xp serviced if warranty was needed. Sucks but Husky has pulled out of Central Florida almost entirely it seems. Crazy with all the storms the last few year's...

It would give me pause to purchase a modern saw that may require dealer support at some point without a servicing dealer close by.

 

[bwalker]

Yes, and yes. On your second point, a wider bore does obviously give more port area, but width doesn't increase area as fast as height.
On your first point, that is true, but I wonder if it isn't despite the short stroke, not because of it.

As it pertains to the exhaust and transfer ports making the port taller often doesn't do you any good as the port floor is already lower than than piston crown at BDC. Of course you can add the increase in height to the top side, but there are limits there for obvious port timing reasons.

 

[HumBurner]

I understand what you mean, but in today's modern electronic brain, the system goes into emergency mode, you get home yes, but not something you are interested in driving mile after mile in.

The same should be possible for chainsaws too, you can manage to fell one tree, and get yourself pretty much done, but not something you bother to continue with to the next tree with.
After all these years with electronic carburetors I don't understand why they haven't developed it to be more advanced when the chainsaw adjustment goes far beyond what is considered normal values.

Basically a computer-driven pull of the choke when it leans out. Might be harder than it sounds, but that's not my realm.

Better for short-term profits/outlooks if you let your customers' units blow themselves up, as opposed to a unit that will last 30 years.

 

[Lions fan]

All my Husqvarna purchases have come down to online at this point. All 3 local stores have went Echo and Stihl unfortunately. Probably take a few months to get the 564xp serviced if warranty was needed. Sucks but Husky has pulled out of Central Florida almost entirely it seems. Crazy with all the storms the last few year's...

My last 2 new saws were both online purchases, one Stihl, one Husqvarna. I wouldn't expect any dealership in my area to give me the time of day if I need dealer support, I'm 100% gambling on never needing their assistance.

 

[HumBurner]

My last 2 new saws were both online purchases, one Stihl, one Husqvarna. I wouldn't expect any dealership in my area to give me the time of day if I need dealer support, I'm 100% gambling on never needing their assistance.

It doesnt matter where the saw was purchased, dealers should handle support (warranty, repairs, etc.) simply based on the fact that they are an authorized dealer. If not, there's no reason to support that specific business.