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I can type the words but I doubt I will ever be able to post a picture (computers/cameras and me are not a good combination) and I have cut very little hardwoods for grade for 10 or 12 years. The timber isn't as it used to be ,,,, You have a big percentage of jobs you can't get to if a crop is in the way and the land owner can get testy if you start mudding it out or the log buyer will give you the eye if the log is all muddy. Like maybe you are hiding a defect or the end market raises a stink .some don't like the bark all scuffed up and so it goes.. As in most any business you need to know the pros and cons of your trade. Some loggers on the Missouri bottoms cut cottonwood waist high some think they are to lazy to bend over but the sand is so bad in the lower trunk it plays hobbs on a chain. and footage is their paycheck Landowner is selling the logger is buying and then sometimes you have the slashand tops to squabble about.

Sounds like you need a forwarder more then a skidder.


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How do you guys deal with all the dirt, just keep filing.
Dirt in my area isn't as bad. but Rock sucks, Our hill ground has places with a lot of glacial rock (granite like) to be watching for, Cat 525 tells about the Flint Hills of Kansas. Here we have rolling hills and steep and deep draws, but over In Missouri the dirt will stand straight up and down and not erode a bit yet our loam here will float away so 40 miles makes a big difference. Missouri river bottom has sand we have rock and fence wire and other hidden surprises...but to answer in short Yeah you do a lot of hand filing... Most of the time i won't take a chain off of the bar 'til it is as short as the pretty pics DEETSEY shows of his "GO FAST CHAIN" hope I have the right name on the short cutter chain pic I remember seeing ...
 
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O Doyle Rules!!!
Doyle short cut --- (D"/4 - 1) times itself x L'
IE: 16 inch log at 8 ft
16 divide by 4 equals 4 subtract 1 from 4 equals 3 so... 3 x 3 is 9 and 9 x 8 ft =96 BF
I don't know how to put the squared (to the power of 2) in place of the "Times itself" if someone is able to please do.. it works with odd numbers as well but multiples of 4 are a breeze to do in the head..
RonEagleUSA caught me doing bad math. I guess some one is keeping an eye on me.
The true answer is 72 Board Feet I don't want to confuse any one so I will let the edit clarify my mistake. Thanks Ron o_O
 
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Bore cut around the dirt or do up cuts. Makes the chain last quite a bit longer.
Thanks, I do, but you can only throw it off the top so long, seems the last part of the cut I always have to pull dirt through the cut. I don't do to bad with them unless I hit a rock in the process. I usually try my best to save the flush cuts until the end of the day, then just touch them up on the grinder at the house, I'll file if I have to but I'd rather not.
 
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