How to square file

[Deets066]

A good 3120 would just break that chain.

How many chains did it take to figure that out?

 

[Wolverine]

That’s because it’s a completely different chain.

notice the side plate doesn’t have a 30 degree forward lean and is straight vertical.

Yup..
Zero lean and worked over in almost every way.


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I see lots of forward lean. Again, I'm just a farwood hack.

And the rakers are way too high. Lol..

Lmao!

 

[Deets066]

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I see lots of forward lean. Again, I'm just a farwood hack.

watch it again, no forward lean at all

 

[Hedgerow]

How many chains did it take to figure that out?

1 really nice one.. with lotsa hours into it.

 

[Deets066]

1 really nice one.. with lotsa hours into it.

rik dis?

 

[Wolverine]

watch it again, no forward lean at all

What an I missing here? The 1st chain doesn’t have any, second one looks to me to have plenty. No beer googles on tonight so I’m scratching my bald head.

 

[Deets066]

What an I missing here? The 1st chain doesn’t have any, second one looks to me to have plenty. No beer googles on tonight so I’m scratching my bald head.
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We must be lookin at different chains.

 

[Hedgerow]

rik dis?

Similar, yes..
But on up cut.
Knocked a hole in the gas tank.

 

[Hedgerow]

We must be lookin at different chains.

I saw some both directions..

Moot point of course.

Cuz of this:

 

[mdavlee]

Cutter in the bottom vid would be grabby and power robbing

Bet that *b-word would be fast on a Hot 3120 though.

 

[Moparmyway]

What an I missing here? The 1st chain doesn’t have any, second one looks to me to have plenty. No beer googles on tonight so I’m scratching my bald head.
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The cutter on the turntable isn’t in either video.

. Yes there is fwd lean in the second video, but not nearly as much as the cutter on the turntable.

The chains in both videos are leaving some very rough finishes and could use a spin in reverse up against a stone

 

[Time's Standing Stihl]

For a gas saw with a dirt bike pipe, i think it’s doing alright.

The wood looks pretty smooth to me, considering the chain isn’t stoned.

 

[Wilhelm]

Ash, my XS5000 made those

 

[Wolverine]

Yes there is fwd lean in the second video, but not nearly as much as the cutter on the turntable.

Harumph




Angle finder wasn’t moved. It’s neither here nor there. It all belongs in the race chain discussion.

 

[Moparmyway]

File a chain each way and see for yourself.
1. Every degree matters (including 1/2 of a degree)

2. The Stihl cutter is just about brand new, while the Oregon cutter sits over the rivet ............

3. Tenths of a second seperate culls from contenders ..........


Bottom line, Deets is dead nuts correct, that Stihl cutter would be a grabby muther scratcher, and would need a saw with alot of power to make use of it

 

[3browns]

Harumph

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Angle finder wasn’t moved. It’s neither here nor there. It all belongs in the race chain discussion.

Thanks for saying that because this latest round of square file discussion was going way over my comprehension level and pay grade

I like the “farwood hacker” approach and when you start talking about the subtleties of race chain I get lost real fast

You guys are seeing gnat’s ass variations that are soooo far beyond me now

I will do my best to catch up and catch on to the “basics” and then hopefully my head won’t hurt so bad

 

[Wolverine]

File a chain each way and see for yourself.
1. Every degree matters (including 1/2 of a degree)

2. The Stihl cutter is just about brand new, while the Oregon cutter sits over the rivet ............

3. Tenths of a second seperate culls from contenders ..........


Bottom line, Deets is dead nuts correct, that Stihl cutter would be a grabby muther scratcher, and would need a saw with alot of power to make use of it

I don’t disagree at all. I just saw similar lean. #imadik?

 

[Wolverine]

Thanks for saying that because this latest round of square file discussion was going way over my comprehension level and pay grade

I like the “farwood hacker” approach and when you start talking about the subtleties of race chain I get lost real fast

You guys are seeing gnat’s ass variations that are soooo far beyond me now

I will do my best to catch up and catch on to the “basics” and then hopefully my head won’t hurt so bad

So a little bit of forward lean helps create a self feeding chain, which is desireable. So when you learn to file for yourself, make sure the side plate is 90 degrees or a bit forward leaning.
I’m no race chain expert so it’s a learning experience for me as well. Luckily these fellers share their knowledge.

 

[Moparmyway]

. #imadik?

No, not at all.
Matter of fact, not one bit

Perspective

 

[3browns]

So a little bit of forward lean helps create a self feeding chain, which is desireable. So when you learn to file for yourself, make sure the side plate is 90 degrees or a bit forward leaning.
I’m no race chain expert so it’s a learning experience for me as well. Luckily these fellers share their knowledge.

Well, that makes perfect sense

And very much yes to the second part as well...

The sharing part is what I meant