High end oil debate belray h1r vs motul 800 2t

[jake wells]

you don't know what your missin
9 out of 10 walmart goers are like possums and have the same genes as Jake Wells.View attachment 13751

fug you, you big lipped porch monkey

 

[jakethesnake]

Just a way off question but can you do anything to clean a piston up without breaking the saw open? Like use sea foam or even any soaking on top pistons or will that screw up the bottom end?

 

[mdavlee]

I get a normal coating with super when milling. Nothing like stumpy got.

 

[Harvey Logging]

Redline 2-stroke racing. The End. (Happily ever after!).

 

[Harvey Logging]

Best be getting that piston on the right way...you know...arrow points to the fingers

 

[Sty57]

I can't believe I just read this whole thread in one sitting.

From what I got outta it is. As long as I don't run Stihl oil my saws will run forever.
Or something like that.

 

[smokey7]

Wow those klotz pistons look terrible. I have never ever had a engine look like that that was my own. I have torn down engines with probably 500+hours. Most everyone I deal with uses echo/shinny, pure gaurd, lucas, citgo, mystic, penzoil or amsoil. I would be furious if I had a motor look like that with 2 gal of mix. I have seen several other motors ran on klotz that looked great. I question if it's the strato saws combined with autotune causing all of the sludge and coking? That piston picture is going to haunt my dreams.

 

[Moparmyway]

Harvey, sometimes, when looking for max output from a specific combination, the piston is flipped backwards to allow a porter to grind in fingers. Also, the builder may opt to remove one of the two rings and even relocate the ring pins .......... all to keep the ring ends out and away from any port, added or already there

 

[CR500]

Don't worry.... I ordered some kl 200 last night....

I do think some oils are excessive at 32:1 even for ported saws.

Which brings me to a new question.
Is 50:1 safe to run with oils that have high rpm limits along with flash and viscosity numbers like Klotz Super and Motul800?

Sent from my non internal combustion device.

 

[Sty57]

I don't run as much as a lot of you guys.
This is what Dad and I have been running. We're on the fourth gal. so far so good.

I friend of mine gets for me at $20 a gal. I can pass that up.

 

[Cut4fun]

Don't worry.... I ordered some kl 200 last night....

Whats it going for now? Last I seen was around $130 a 10qt case delivered.

I swear by kl-200 and even run it with ethanol fuel. Tested it for over a year in a old set aside batch and it never separated. Even when left open on purpose a qt at a time.

Still running kl-200 32/1 in everything stock, weedeaters and never seen the crap the super was doing. kl-200 all the way.

 

[Moparmyway]

Whats it going for now? Last I seen was around $130 a 10qt case delivered.

I swear by kl-200 and even run it with ethanol fuel. Tested it for over a year in a old set aside batch and it never separated. Even when left open on purpose a qt at a time.

Still running kl-200 32/1 in everything stock, weedeaters and never seen the crap the super was doing. kl-200 all the way.

Throw us a picture or a few of some of your long use pistons with KL-200 when you can please !

 

[Cut4fun]

Throw us a picture or a few of some of your long use pistons with KL-200 when you can please !

Dont plan on pulling any out anytime soon. AFM 066 piston in the 505 and a AFM BB372 in the 475. All have been run hard on this set up.

If I get down south and get those big poplars on the ground and logged. I might pull them down then for a look see. Because I am thinking about putting a 445 on my wild thing 505

 

[Keith Gandy]

10 tanks , 550xp, 87 efree with Klotz Super @ 40to1. Plenty of oil in the bottomend at 40to1 and top of piston was a thin dry hard layer of carbon. So far so good. I was takin her down for porting and figured I would shoot yall a few pictures

 

[Cut4fun]

View attachment 13848 10 tanks , 550xp, 87 efree with Klotz Super @ 40to1. Plenty of oil in the bottomend at 40to1 and top of piston was a thin dry hard layer of carbon. So far so good. I was takin her down for porting and figured I would shoot yall a few pictures View attachment 13848View attachment 13849

Thats what I like to see too. Just scared of the stuff aka super after what I had happening. Then seen more folks posting even worse then mine.
Yet to see Original do that stuff yet.

Thanks for your info.

 

[Definitive Dave]

So I visited Iron Pony today and picked up a quart of Klotz Benol to try. Also a bunch of plastic restoration products.
Dave

 

[jmssaws]

That's what I broke your saw in on dave.
By the way it's on its way home.

 

[Cut4fun]

So I visited Iron Pony today and picked up a quart of Klotz Benol to try. Also a bunch of plastic restoration products.
Dave

Watch using it in cold weather.

 

[Definitive Dave]

do I look like I do any work, let alone in cold weather

them motorcycle guys are real particular about their oils well over 100 types there today, more than 50 kinds of air filter oils, it was crazy!!!

 

[Cut4fun]

If you leave your mix outside in cold shop etc it will even fall out of suspension. Wont stay mixed in cold weather.

Read alot on it years ago and it seemed to be a good warm weather oil. Only a few complaints of it gumming up the rings.