Has Anyone Here Ever Bought A Saw From Kenny?

[tickbitintn]

The color of money is the color of money ...
Who is slinging it has the influence....
Doesn't matter "who"...
Sadly.

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[tickbitintn]

When I say sadly,
I mean that the money is predominantly the "determining factor"

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[CR888]

I'm just sayin......Ol Epstein didn't hang himself.

Apparently he did....while the suicide prevention prison guards on duty were asleep on shift & coincidentally the same time the 24/7 camera's stopped working.

 

[Johnmn]

You have a point I suppose.

I tend to see things from a Native American perspective. Hence my mention of the white man.

I reckon rich black people can get away with whatever they want too.

And they do, look at all the "world class athletes" and the crimes they commit all the time. Yet they still have jobs and are out of jail with nothing more than a fine or a slap on the wrist. Rape, drugs, child abuse, assault you name it!

 

[AshlandMachinist]

Well, I never thought I'd be signing up for a chainsaw forum just to defend someone, but here goes.

I'm Kenny's neighbor and I've been doing machine work for him for a while now (photos below.) I was talking to him yesterday and he mentioned in passing that some folks were saying some vicious stuff about him on this forum, but I wasn't expecting 40 pages of trolling and drama. He doesn't know that I found this, yet, and he'll probably be annoyed that I'm posting this, but I need to say my peace. Some of y'all should definitely grow up and look in the mirror, but my only impression has been what I've read on these pages and it's ugly.

I'm not a chainsaw aficionado by any means, but it's clear to me that Kenny is, indeed. The dude is a savant when it comes to the fluid mechanics and thermodynamics of combustion, and he's an artist with a burr. He's an honest, hardworking guy and fiercely loyal from what I've experienced. It's a shame to here about the cluster with the old saw, but if I'm being honest reading this reminded me of an uncle's guitar I've had sitting in a corner for about 7 years that still needs a custom replacement pickguard made for it - I'm wondering if I'm being trashed on a forum somewhere, too. Things like that happen, unfortunately, and you forget about them except in flashes and you feel guilty - it's not a good feeling. In fact, I think I'll try to get it done this week. Anyway, I digress.

Here's my setup for cutting bands - I know a lot of hacks out there waste all day with a kludge all-thread setup in an old worn out lathe, but I've made a proper fixture for cutting bands that's rock solid, deadly accurate, and only takes a few minutes to indicate in to a couple tenths runout.
Since I've got a mill, two lathes, a surface grinder, and a jig borer, it's pretty easy to do it the right way. With a couple of plates I can cover most of the common sizes. Since the plate is ground flat and parallel, skimming the risers makes for zero axial wobble, and I just need to tap in the concentric runout.


I'll post some other setups below

 

[Mastermind]

Well, I never thought I'd be signing up for a chainsaw forum just to defend someone, but here goes.

I'm Kenny's neighbor and I've been doing machine work for him for a while now (photos below.) I was talking to him yesterday and he mentioned in passing that some folks were saying some vicious stuff about him on this forum, but I wasn't expecting 40 pages of trolling and drama. He doesn't know that I found this, yet, and he'll probably be annoyed that I'm posting this, but I need to say my peace. Some of y'all should definitely grow up and look in the mirror, but my only impression has been what I've read on these pages and it's ugly.

I'm not a chainsaw aficionado by any means, but it's clear to me that Kenny is, indeed. The dude is a savant when it comes to the fluid mechanics and thermodynamics of combustion, and he's an artist with a burr. He's an honest, hardworking guy and fiercely loyal from what I've experienced. It's a shame to here about the cluster with the old saw, but if I'm being honest reading this reminded me of an uncle's guitar I've had sitting in a corner for about 7 years that still needs a custom replacement pickguard made for it - I'm wondering if I'm being trashed on a forum somewhere, too. Things like that happen, unfortunately, and you forget about them except in flashes and you feel guilty - it's not a good feeling. In fact, I think I'll try to get it done this week. Anyway, I digress.

Here's my setup for cutting bands - I know a lot of hacks out there waste all day with a kludge all-thread setup in an old worn out lathe, but I've made a proper fixture for cutting bands that's rock solid, deadly accurate, and only takes a few minutes to indicate in to a couple tenths runout.
Since I've got a mill, two lathes, a surface grinder, and a jig borer, it's pretty easy to do it the right way. With a couple of plates I can cover most of the common sizes. Since the plate is ground flat and parallel, skimming the risers makes for zero axial wobble, and I just need to tap in the concentric runout.
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I'll post some other setups below

I had a feeling when I approved your membership that you were involved with Kenny.

You may as well give it up. Kenny took a man's saw.....kept it. Told fascinating stories about it. Made every excuse why he couldn't find a person that I found in 20 minutes.

I'll be sending you away soon. We have had enough drama over Kenny.

 

[AshlandMachinist]

Here's my base cutting mandrel setup.

Since it's in two pieces, I can skim cut the holder which just gives clearance over the carriage, and bolt on and indicate true the mandrel to indicate in to a few tenths concentricity in about a minute. Since I skim the holder every time the axial wobble is limited to the spindle bearing runout, which is about a tenth.
Cheap and fast, less material, more accurate.

Of all the jugs I've cut thus far, the ones from the factory are OK but the ones he has that were cut by other folks have all be out by a mile. I don't think people know how to adjust their gibs or lock their carriage, let alone sharpen a carbide tool

 

[Mastermind]

Here's my base cutting mandrel setup.

Since it's in two pieces, I can skim cut the holder which just gives clearance over the carriage, and bolt on and indicate true the mandrel to indicate in to a few tenths concentricity in about a minute. Since I skim the holder every time the axial wobble is limited to the spindle bearing runout, which is about a tenth.
Cheap and fast, less material, more accurate.

Of all the jugs I've cut thus far, the ones from the factory are OK but the ones he has that were cut by other folks have all be out by a mile. I don't think people know how to adjust their gibs or lock their carriage, let alone sharpen a carbide tool

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So....you are here to defend Kenny. And talk crap about everyone who mods saws?

 

[Mastermind]

Besides.....what you can do in your shop has absolutely nothing to do with Kenny taking someone's saw.

 

[AshlandMachinist]

I had a feeling when I approved your membership that you were involved with Kenny.

You may as well give it up. Kenny took a man's saw.....kept it. Told fascinating stories about it. Made every excuse why he couldn't find a person that I found in 20 minutes.

I'll be sending you away soon. We have had enough drama over Kenny.

Don't worry, I'll be on my way soon. I saw folks speculating that he didn't even have the tools or means to do the work he claimed and that is false. I'm not interested in getting into your drama and the years of baggage. I don't need the work, and I don't care, but you have dragged the man through the mud with plenty of accusations beyond the one indiscretion that you deem unforgiveable. That is your prerogative, though I am sure the story is more complicated or unfortunate that the malicious telling that seems to be the narrative here.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

This is all fine and I see you have a set up to do it, problem that arose was he didn’t bother to set up the right way to sell port work here, never showed any pictures of capability, tried to pm people to solicit port jobs. If he’d followed the rules and answered questions along with sending a saw back to its owner he’d still be here. Didn’t look real hard to find the owner of the saw he was supposed to port and now after 8 years he couldn’t/ wouldn’t give a straight answer.

 

[Mastermind]

Don't worry, I'll be on my way soon. I saw folks speculating that he didn't even have the tools or means to do the work he claimed and that is false. I'm not interested in getting into your drama and the years of baggage. I don't need the work, and I don't care, but you have dragged the man through the mud with plenty of accusations beyond the one indiscretion that you deem unforgiveable. That is your prerogative, though I am sure the story is more complicated or unfortunate that the malicious telling that seems to be the narrative here.

The guy dragged himself through the mud. I'm sure he has left out a great many details. Rest assured that there is nothing you can say that will take the bullets out of his foot that he himself fired into it.

 

[AshlandMachinist]

I'm not here to make excuses for whatever happened in the past, and I don't even begin to claim to know the full story. All I know about the man is what I've experienced working with him for the past two years or so.

As I said, before this talk about the missing saw came up, there were plenty of accusations that the man could not do the work that he said he could, and that is false. Why he didn't post pictures or videos of his saws, I don't know, and I don't care.

You have your rules about solicitation, and that's fair - I'm not trying to get him reinstated or anything like that, just trying to correct the record on some of the other claims.



Maybe some folks will get some useful ideas from the work that I've done in order to obtain the precision that Kenny was looking for. These were mostly his ideas, not mine. I just turn the handwheels


Band cutting fixture plates:


Angled boring setup for a stripped helicoil


Setup for leveling out transfers, long-reach carbide endmill not shown. Jug was surface ground with a diamond resin wheel for parallelism between base and top of fins for accurate cutting.

 

[Mastermind]

I'm not here to make excuses for whatever happened in the past, and I don't even begin to claim to know the full story. All I know about the man is what I've experienced working with him for the past two years or so.

As I said, before this talk about the missing saw came up, there were plenty of accusations that the man could not do the work that he said he could, and that is false. Why he didn't post pictures or videos of his saws, I don't know, and I don't care.

You have your rules about solicitation, and that's fair - I'm not trying to get him reinstated or anything like that, just trying to correct the record on some of the other claims.



Maybe some folks will get some useful ideas from the work that I've done in order to obtain the precision that Kenny was looking for. These were mostly his ideas, not mine. I just turn the handwheels


Band cutting fixture plates:
View attachment 309110

Angled boring setup for a stripped helicoil
View attachment 309112

Setup for leveling out transfers, long-reach carbide endmill not shown. Jug was surface ground with a diamond resin wheel for parallelism between base and top of fins for accurate cutting.
View attachment 309111

The work YOU DO looks great. As has been said, Kenny went about things all wrong here. He refused to show any examples of HIS work. No pictures, no videos, no testimonials. Then rather than become a site sponsor, and advertize like everyone else, he trolled for work by approaching new members in private. When he was called out about these things by me......he told me to f**k off, and mind my own business. Then the saw that he never returned came to light.

So.....in my position, what would you do?

 

[Woodslasher]

Don't worry, I'll be on my way soon. I saw folks speculating that he didn't even have the tools or means to do the work he claimed and that is false. I'm not interested in getting into your drama and the years of baggage. I don't need the work, and I don't care, but you have dragged the man through the mud with plenty of accusations beyond the one indiscretion that you deem unforgivable. That is your prerogative, though I am sure the story is more complicated or unfortunate that the malicious telling that seems to be the narrative here.

I am being dead serious here, if you are intent on helping Kenny why don't you try to help him ship the 024 back to it's owner? Hopefully either Kenny or someone else on here knows Dart71's address and while it wouldn't fix things it would certainly help. BTW, I like your machine shop. While I am entirely unskilled in using such things I can appreciate a well setup shop.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

I'm not here to make excuses for whatever happened in the past, and I don't even begin to claim to know the full story. All I know about the man is what I've experienced working with him for the past two years or so.

As I said, before this talk about the missing saw came up, there were plenty of accusations that the man could not do the work that he said he could, and that is false. Why he didn't post pictures or videos of his saws, I don't know, and I don't care.

You have your rules about solicitation, and that's fair - I'm not trying to get him reinstated or anything like that, just trying to correct the record on some of the other claims.



Maybe some folks will get some useful ideas from the work that I've done in order to obtain the precision that Kenny was looking for. These were mostly his ideas, not mine. I just turn the handwheels


Band cutting fixture plates:
View attachment 309110

Angled boring setup for a stripped helicoil
View attachment 309112

Setup for leveling out transfers, long-reach carbide endmill not shown. Jug was surface ground with a diamond resin wheel for parallelism between base and top of fins for accurate cutting.
View attachment 309111

Very nice set up, unfortunately anything I would be doing would have to be don’t on a lathe unless I go to my uncles shop. I’m actually surprised Kenny would hunt out a machinist to do any work since he was always used to say that base and squish cuts weren’t needed to make a fast saw. But now he’s having someone machine for him.

 

[CR888]

None of us really disliked Kenny, he was a bit random but from what I saw he mostly got along with the membership. Nobody wanted to see him 'go' but when it was brought to light he'd never given a man his saw back rules had to be followed. There is a low tolerance for that kind of stuff around here.

 

[AshlandMachinist]

Very nice set up, unfortunately anything I would be doing would have to be don’t on a lathe unless I go to my uncles shop. I’m actually surprised Kenny would hunt out a machinist to do any work since he was always used to say that base and squish cuts weren’t needed to make a fast saw. But now he’s having someone machine for him.

I can't recall how this all started, honestly. I was trying to buy some wood off of him since he's always out there milling nice hardwood slabs and I do woodturning. I'd been living next to him for quite a few years before he found out I had a shop.
I know every saw he uses (quite a few!!) has been worked over and tuned in one way or another and that most stuff he does doesn't require machine work, but a lot of it is over my head. I'd done some bar work (milling and hydraulic press) and repair stuff for him, and the base/band stuff started as an experiment in a way but he was liking the results. I know he had sent stuff out to people in the past but wasn't thrilled with the results. He's a pretty clever guy and I think seeing the capabilities next door got his gears turning.

 

[cus_deluxe]

having kenny for a neighbor must be pretty intense.

 

[AshlandMachinist]

I am being dead serious here, if you are intent on helping Kenny why don't you try to help him ship the 024 back to it's owner? Hopefully either Kenny or someone else on here knows Dart71's address and while it wouldn't fix things it would certainly help. BTW, I like your machine shop. While I am entirely unskilled in using such things I can appreciate a well setup shop.

That's a good idea, I'll talk to him about it. He's an honest guy, and I'm sure it's eating him up. Unfortunate situation, to say the least