Complain about modern pickup trucks

[Powerstroke Cowboy]

FYI if you own a ford 6.7L diesel you better change out the cp4 hpfp to a cp3 as preventative maint...or end up with a really ugly repair bill north of 10 grand...when the cp4 pump fails it throws a glitter party through every injector.

The CP3 in no way shape or form can fit in where the CP4 mounts. It simply can not physically fit.

I've seen CP4 pumps fail. One was due to gelling. Another was due to a fuel supply issue.

If you always have a steady clean supply of fuel to the CP4 they are not a problem.

 

[Steve]

FYI if you own a ford 6.7L diesel you better change out the cp4 hpfp to a cp3 as preventative maint...or end up with a really ugly repair bill north of 10 grand...when the cp4 pump fails it throws a glitter party through every injector.

300k on our cp4. 178k on our other cp4. I have never personally heard of anyone having a cp4 failure on a 6.7 Ford. Not saying it doesn't happen but I believe it's over hyped.

 

[They call me Mr. Kibbs]

#1 complaint with new pickups: PRICE!!!
#2: Screens.
#3: Bad visibility over the hood
#4: MPG still sucks
#5: DIY maintenance nightmare
#6: Global manufacturing and supply chains
#7: Shrinking cargo beds
#8: Goofy bed dimensions
#9: Price!
#10: Price!
#11: Price!

Getting forced into replacing my '06 F350 single cab XL 4wd as it's just under 280k on the 5.4 gas...it has been a damn good truck though.
Looking at available options sort of sux, moneywise is a big part, but lack of an 8' bed and way too many gizmos in my opinion, screens and lane warnings ought to stick to high-end sedans.
Brings up an honest, I do not know question: I imagine all the sensors, etc. for the warning systems are located in the corners of the vehicles (guessing in the head/tail light housings?), which are likely to be the first damaged in a collision. I assume replacing the sensors etc is kind of spendy, right? Taking a truck in the woods for a load of firewood or to drag something out could prob run into the thousands if you bust out a corner light, or am I wayyyy off track?

 

[maisl]

...Taking a truck in the woods for a load of firewood or to drag something out could prob run into the thousands if you bust out a corner light...

It seems so :

M

Post in thread 'Complain about modern pickup trucks'

Nov 12, 2024

IMO, if you have to put steps into tailgates, steps in the sides of the bed, and running boards so you can get into the truck to use it - it is too tall.

Had mostly Ford trucks in the family since the late 60's, with a Dodge/Ram along the way.

1972 F150 I could reach over the pickup bed side to get items from the bed. On my current F250, that isn't going to happen. My wife can't get into the truck without a step stool (I bought running boards so I'll have those on before too long).

On the modules everywhere - have you guys seen the price for replacing a taillight on a newer Ford...

• Mack 880

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[They call me Mr. Kibbs]

It seems so :

M

Post in thread 'Complain about modern pickup trucks'

Nov 12, 2024

IMO, if you have to put steps into tailgates, steps in the sides of the bed, and running boards so you can get into the truck to use it - it is too tall.

Had mostly Ford trucks in the family since the late 60's, with a Dodge/Ram along the way.

1972 F150 I could reach over the pickup bed side to get items from the bed. On my current F250, that isn't going to happen. My wife can't get into the truck without a step stool (I bought running boards so I'll have those on before too long).

On the modules everywhere - have you guys seen the price for replacing a taillight on a newer Ford...

• Mack 880

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Sorry about that, should have read more of the thread

 

[Squareground3691]

I purchased my first new truck a Chevy K30 4x4 for 13,280 in 1987 the best truck I ever owned , now that truck would cost 650% more today , Manufacturing cost have gone way up along with emissions standards,along with wages and health benefits going way up, and paying retirement packages and health benefits for retired are a huge factor, with cost of new trucks these days , It’s awfully hard to justify how the average person can afford it ,

 

[Steve]

Getting forced into replacing my '06 F350 single cab XL 4wd as it's just under 280k on the 5.4 gas...it has been a damn good truck though.
Looking at available options sort of sux, moneywise is a big part, but lack of an 8' bed and way too many gizmos in my opinion, screens and lane warnings ought to stick to high-end sedans.
Brings up an honest, I do not know question: I imagine all the sensors, etc. for the warning systems are located in the corners of the vehicles (guessing in the head/tail light housings?), which are likely to be the first damaged in a collision. I assume replacing the sensors etc is kind of spendy, right? Taking a truck in the woods for a load of firewood or to drag something out could prob run into the thousands if you bust out a corner light, or am I wayyyy off track?

Most the sensors are in the mirrors, windshields, and behind the bumpers. Believe it or not most manufacturers of 3/4 ton and up trucks know the models will be work trucks and subjected to the kinds of environments you are talking about. Go pick out a new truck that fits your liking and budget and use it as a truck!

 

[FergusonTO35]

I had my 1998 Ranger for 20 years. 2wd/4banger/manual transmission/no air/regular cab/ power nothing. The guy I sold it to loves the truck and was super stoked to get it. Dad gave me a sweet deal on his loaded 2012 Dodge 4wd V8 crew cab. Nice truck, but I’m still not used to it!

 

[Ketchup]

I purchased my first new truck a Chevy K30 4x4 for 13,280 in 1987 the best truck I ever owned , now that truck would cost 650% more today , Manufacturing cost have gone way up along with emissions standards,along with wages and health benefits going way up, and paying retirement packages and health benefits for retired are a huge factor, with cost of new trucks these days , It’s awfully hard to justify how the average person can afford it ,

Most of that I’m willing to pay for. But not stock dividends and CEO bonuses. And there’s no guarantee that $95k truck was built by people that receive benefits. I really have no idea, but it feels like the auto companies are gouging the little guy.

 

[Squareground3691]

Most of that I’m willing to pay for. But not stock dividends and CEO bonuses. And there’s no guarantee that $95k truck was built by people that receive benefits. I really have no idea, but it feels like the auto companies are gouging the little guy.

My uncle retired at 55 from a GM facility, he had 32 years in , he’s collecting 75% of his annual salary for pension and full health benefits for him for life he’s 79 now , but I’m sure that’s changed now but there’s thousands of employees like him , that a staggering statistic cost wise , considering how much healthcare costs these days,

 

[Powerstroke Cowboy]

You can thank the Union for that......

 

[damifino]

#1 complaint with new pickups: PRICE!!!
#2: Screens.
#3: Bad visibility over the hood
#4: MPG still sucks
#5: DIY maintenance nightmare
#6: Global manufacturing and supply chains
#7: Shrinking cargo beds
#8: Goofy bed dimensions
#9: Price!
#10: Price!
#11: Price!

Ketchup, add price to your list of complaints I think you missed it.... or did you....??..lol. Too much $ indeed.

 

[full chizel]

If you got it spend it. You’re not taking any of to the grave with you.

 

[Ketchup]

Ain’t got it.

 

[mainer_in_ak]

Pulled a shiny new 6.7 powerstroke crewcab off the highway. It died on a steep hill in the middle of the parks highway, pulling a double axle gooseneck camper. One guy in a Ford expedition hooked up, and roached his torque convertor trying to pull this elderly couple off the highway.

I locked in 4 low, and pulled the circus off the highway to the top of the hill with the ole 7.3 powerstroke. I loosened pinion bearing preload on my front axle pulling all that weight in 4 low.

We had to call a special tow truck designed for tractor trailer trucks/w trailer, to pull the whole thing to fairbanks.

To be far though, few years ago, my old ford died in the very same fashion: on a steep blind hill while towing an m1031 cucv on a trailer. It's what Ford trucks do new or old: die in the worst, most dangerous fkn place possible. A new 6.7 powerstroke came out of nowhere and pulled me to safety!

That "Found On Road Dead" moniker, FORD guys actually stop to help ford drivers.

 

[Maintenance Chief]

I drive a 2wd 2018 2500 Dodge every day for work ,pulls mini exs ,skid steers,trees, and hauls my tools around. I got it with 7 thousand miles and now I've got 230,000.
I've had brake,emissions, sensors and ignition issues with it but nothing terrible. The trans went at 175,000 ,that was 7,000$ just for the parts.
Here's the problem I have, first of all abousolutely non of the issues get fixed . Any sensor or gas cap that gets replaced gets the dash light off for about 30 days and bingo ! It's back. Anything major has to be taken to the dealer for repairs because of proprietary software?
Transversely I bout an 89' Cherokee out of a yard for 300.00 repair every myself and have 254,000 on it , modify ,change ,and replace stuff on it with out having to " reprogram anything! Oh , the transmission is funny ? Disconnect the brown wire and now it starts in any gear! lol . Hey it's mine , I own it.
My first truck was a 77 D100 club cab , I've had several with 300,000 miles on them . I've swapped motors trans and rears in a weekend or Wednesday? For a couple hundred bucks and drove it to work.
With new encryption and no dip sticks I'll continue to own old trucks personally. The new ones are nice and comfortable, but you don't own the SOB , even when it's paid off.

 

[RCBS]

I don't like that most want them to be all things. They can only be good if they are a pickup. If you try to make them something else, they become less of a pickup. They are supposed to be gas hogs. They are supposed to ride rough. They are supposed to be dependable. They are not meant to give heated back massages on the way to Aldi's. Trying to turn the trucks into high riding race cadillacs has been terrible for people who actually need and use a truck.

 

[mainer_in_ak]

Fun fact: Merle Haggard sung that we can "build a Ford and Chevy that'll last 10 years like they should"

He never mentioned a Dodge. Laughing!

 

[jacktheripper]

Fun fact: Merle Haggard sung that we can "build a Ford and Chevy that'll last 10 years like they should"

He never mentioned a Dodge. Laughing!

That was a great dam 4 minutes.

 

[Mack 880]

Pulled a shiny new 6.7 powerstroke crewcab off the highway. It died on a steep hill in the middle of the parks highway, pulling a double axle gooseneck camper. One guy in a Ford expedition hooked up, and roached his torque convertor trying to pull this elderly couple off the highway.

I locked in 4 low, and pulled the circus off the highway to the top of the hill with the ole 7.3 powerstroke. I loosened pinion bearing preload on my front axle pulling all that weight in 4 low.

We had to call a special tow truck designed for tractor trailer trucks/w trailer, to pull the whole thing to fairbanks.

To be far though, few years ago, my old ford died in the very same fashion: on a steep blind hill while towing an m1031 cucv on a trailer. It's what Ford trucks do new or old: die in the worst, most dangerous fkn place possible. A new 6.7 powerstroke came out of nowhere and pulled me to safety!

That "Found On Road Dead" moniker, FORD guys actually stop to help ford drivers...."

I was just in Fairbanks in July (going through the airport and doing the tourist thing). We could actually see Denali from the airport the air was so clear. It was a loooong way aways though. But WOW! Beautiful country.