Anyone run 100LL A gas in a 4-mix?

[av8or3]

Torco is the product I used. But back in 2004 it cost a lot less. I could buy 5 gals for what you’d have to pay for 64 oz. now.

 

[Mad Professor]

Here’s something on Tolulene.

Google Search

I just happened to think. Coats your exhaust reddish brown.

Toluene.

Xylene or mestislene works better. 1,2-, 1-3 or 1-4- di-methyl benzene isomers or isomers of tri-methyl benzene

 

[av8or3]

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[av8or3]

Toluene.

Xylene or mestislene works better. 1,2-, 1-3 or 1-4- di-methyl benzene isomers or isomers of tri-methyl benzene

Awesome

 

[Hinerman]

My question: Why would anybody want to use AV gas in their 2-stroke equipment?

 

[Lee H]

I have been using 100LL in my saws and all my outdoor power equipment for over 20 years. Weather it's a 2 stroke or 4 stroke i have never had any issues at all. Never fouled a plug and i see no drop in horsepower. The shelf life and lack of ethanol are the 2 primary reasons why i use 100LL and will continue to use it.

 

[Eager Beaver]

I agree Lee. I have used it for about 20 years. Shelf life, 100 octane and I have no issues with it. Sometimes I mix it with 87 non ethanol.

 

[bwalker]

Here’s something on Tolulene.

Google Search

I just happened to think. Coats your exhaust reddish brown.

Thats MMT that makes your exhaust reddish brown.
Lead while make it white colored and your plug while sometimes take on a weird yellowish hue.
Toluene, which avgas has a heavy dose BTW doesnt do any of that stuff. It does provide for poor throttle response in a two stroke and if the fuel has too much of it will make less HP.

 

[bwalker]

My question: Why would anybody want to use AV gas in their 2-stroke equipment?

Good question. Avgas will make less power than pump fuel in a normal two stroke. If you run it you will also be breathing in lead and bromine compounds. Its only advantage is it stores for a long time. I would just use canned alkylate fuel.

 

[EFSM]

Good question. Avgas will make less power than pump fuel in a normal two stroke. If you run it you will also be breathing in lead and bromine compounds. Its only advantage is it stores for a long time. I would just use canned alkylate fuel.

Shelf life, 100 octane

Maybe now would be a good time to remind everyone that octane does not mean power. It’s simply a metric of resistance to detonation. If you’re running a saw with 250 pounds of compression, then you may need 100 octane.
Am I explaining that right, @bwalker ?

 

[bwalker]

Maybe now would be a good time to remind everyone that octane does not mean power. It’s simply a metric of resistance to detonation. If you’re running a saw with 250 pounds of compression, then you may need 100 octane.
Am I explaining that right, @bwalker ?

Yep, spot on.

 

[blacksmith]

I as well have run it in my saws for years and have never ever had one issue.

I get it from my Stihl dealer and he told me that it was devolved by the US Navy in 1913 and is still the same formula. He told me that it actually runs cooler than regular gas. He also told me that it has an infinite shelf life.

I have NEVER put any kind of Stabil in it and my stuff always starts and the carbs never have had any issues.

The only additive that I mix in with the gas is Marvel Mystery Oil along with my 2 strike oil if I am mixing it for ny saws.

I did a complete rebuild on an 066 that I had. Ran it for quite a while and was curious as to what everything looked like after a lot of run time and this is what it looked like.

 

[ammoaddict]

I as well have run it in my saws for years and have never ever had one issue.

I get it from my Stihl dealer and he told me that it was devolved by the US Navy in 1913 and is still the same formula. He told me that it actually runs cooler than regular gas.

I did a complete rebuild on an 066 that I had. Ran it for quite a while and was curious as to what everything looked like after a lot of run time and this is what it looked like.

A stihl dealer sells aviation fuel?

 

[blacksmith]

A stihl dealer sells aviation fuel?

Yes he does. He has a pilot's license and a plane. He gets the gas from the airport where he stores his plane. He has at least two 55 gallon drums in his shop at all times.

 

[ammoaddict]

Yes he does. He has a pilot's license and a plane. He gets the gas from the airport where he stores his plane. He has at least two 55 gallon drums in his shop at all times.

I see, it makes sense now.

 

[bwalker]

I as well have run it in my saws for years and have never ever had one issue.

I get it from my Stihl dealer and he told me that it was devolved by the US Navy in 1913 and is still the same formula. He told me that it actually runs cooler than regular gas. He also told me that it has an infinite shelf life.

I have NEVER put any kind of Stabil in it and my stuff always starts and the carbs never have had any issues.

The only additive that I mix in with the gas is Marvel Mystery Oil along with my 2 strike oil if I am mixing it for ny saws.

I did a complete rebuild on an 066 that I had. Ran it for quite a while and was curious as to what everything looked like after a lot of run time and this is what it looked like.

100LL was not developed for the Navy in 1913...
It does store for a long time, although not infinitely.
It also exposes you to the inhalation of lead and bromine compounds. Yea, no thanks, not in handheld equipment.

 

[brushwacker]

That is problems with mix, mix oil, mix ratio, or carb settings.

Often more likely a clogged air filter.