60cc Shoot Out

[Mastermind]

I was going to ask if a 199 might "help" it along some. If you want to keep it awhile longer to compare it to the 620 that would be fine with me as long as it isn't to long. LOL. I am going to try and make the gtg, I will have this saw along with me and leave a couple saws with you for some more magic!

I've been messing with carbs all day. I drilled the seat in your carb, and screwed it up. It wouldn't seal at all. Luckily I have a box full of new Zamas. After I got another one fixed up and made those videos, I started modding five 3120 carbs. One is gonna run alcohol....that's all new to me.

 

[jacob j.]

So maybe I missed it, but have all three been Mastermind ported??

The 357 sure sounded like the baddest ass in the bunch, but cut times showed that to not quite be the case... Close as it was.

I too enjoyed the march of the Guinea fowl..

Love me some 357! Interesting to note, the 357 being the smallest in actual displacement, if even by a relatively small margin... I still think there is something magical about a good ol' 357xp

Bryanr2: I believe your comment above is 100% spot on the money.

Cool thread!

The 357 really is one of Husqvarna's best, but they fouled it with the automatic compression release. That ruined its' reputation with professional forestry and commercial ROW crews, who are the biggest users worldwide of pro-grade 60cc saws. It they had left it alone and offered a "west coast" version early on, it would have been the best selling 60cc ever.

 

[bryanr2]

I think I am really going to like that saw! Thank you Randy!
Next up for me will be a 346xp that is about the same as that 357xp. Then it will be a 372xp that is much the same.
I have another 357xp that is nos and a 346xp ne and oe that are nos as well.

quit bragging.

 

[bryanr2]

The 357 really is one of Husqvarna's best, but they fouled it with the automatic compression release. That ruined its' reputation with professional forestry and commercial ROW crews, who are the biggest users worldwide of pro-grade 60cc saws. It they had left it alone and offered a "west coast" version early on, it would have been the best selling 60cc ever.

Spike60 found and sent me 1 of only 2 Full wraps left from the distributer for my 357xp and I bought the dual spikes to make it a West Coast saw.

 

[JT78]

I got to play with a 5100 a few years back did some port work to it it was a fun little saw I really like the looks of that 6100 you have built.

 

[Terry Syd]

Did the 6100 and 357 pick up some more low end grunt after the carb mods?

With the reeds on the strato of the 6100, I figure that it could probably take a bit more fuel in the low speed circuit than the 357, is that what you ran into or were they essentially jetted the same?

 

[Jon1212]

I've been messing with carbs all day. I drilled the seat in your carb, and screwed it up. It wouldn't seal at all. Luckily I have a box full of new Zamas. After I got another one fixed up and made those videos, I started modding five 3120 carbs. One is gonna run alcohol....that's all new to me.

Was HBRN a big proponent of running saws while on alcohol?

 

[mdavlee]

I've been messing with carbs all day. I drilled the seat in your carb, and screwed it up. It wouldn't seal at all. Luckily I have a box full of new Zamas. After I got another one fixed up and made those videos, I started modding five 3120 carbs. One is gonna run alcohol....that's all new to me.

Want to do one more? I may be able to help you a little on that alky carb. I have some starting sizes for most of those carbs.

 

[Mastermind]

Want to do one more? I may be able to help you a little on that alky carb. I have some starting sizes for most of those carbs.

I'm adding a high speed jet, and enlarging the seat. The final drill pattern will be done by the end user.

 

[mdavlee]

I'm adding a high speed jet, and enlarging the seat. The final drill pattern will be done by the end user.

I've got one needing a H jet.

 

[Mastermind]

Did the 6100 and 357 pick up some more low end grunt after the carb mods?

With the reeds on the strato of the 6100, I figure that it could probably take a bit more fuel in the low speed circuit than the 357, is that what you ran into or were they essentially jetted the same?

They are both jetted the same Terry.

 

[sunfish]

I learned with my Big Dave Nieger ported 357. Great saw for as little cc they are 56.5cc. Great little work saw.
They like fuel and not being lean. Feed them for the win.

I kept mine fat even when racing for gtg's.

That saw is Hauling Ass! LOL

 

[Mastermind]

I've got one needing a H jet.

I can do that.

 

[Mastermind]

That saw is Hauling Ass! LOL

Yes. Yes it is. Big Dave's saws were well known for that.

 

[mdavlee]

I can do that.

I'll mail it today. I have a couple more I think will work if I want to mess with the fat bastard this weekend.

 

[sunfish]

I'm running about two weeks or more behind right now. I had several rebuilds in a row that I didn't plan on. I have a new 620 here......but the 562 and the 357 will be gone before I get the 620 done. I can probably hang onto the 6100 for a comparison though.

No hurry on mine, Randy. Do what you need to do.

 

[Mastermind]

No hurry on mine, Randy. Do what you need to do.

I appreciate that Don. Very few people ever rush me to get their saws back. I guess everyone knows how slow I am. LOL

 

[MustangMike]

Would be interesting to put em all on a scale in addition to showing performance. All fully fueled with the same size B&C. I think the power/wt comparison would tilt the scale a little more in favor of the older Husky.

Speaking of lighter 60 cc saws, are those newer 362s porting well for you Randy? If so, it would be great to see one of them in this comparison also. I have not seen too much about them since they came out.

 

[MustangMike]

Which one is yours Don?

 

[sunfish]

Which one is yours Don?

Mike, it's not in this shoot out, but it's a 357. Or a 359 that will become a 357.