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[Tor R]

That is exactly what should of happened. The 572 would be way better with a bigger bore and the extra power that would provide. Its heavier than the 462 but that could be easily overlooked if you had a significant power advantage for it. Without that the much lighter 462 will be hard to beat

Your guys a thinking to much power or weight, saw is more then those two things, AV, shape and slimness, ergonomics, balance with different b&c combo, distance between trottle - front handle bar, etc etc etc

 

[rocco490]

I agree there is more to a saw than pure numbers however the 462 IS well balanced with multiple bar lengths as has been demonstrated with pictures and has very good AV and ergonomics and build quality. Both have similar power the 462 is a lot lighter. The 462 has a lot going for it. I think it will cost more than the husky sometimes you get what you pay for. That said I keep thinking about the 565. For the money I think it could be the best value

 

[rocco490]

Real question is who wouldn't like a 581 if it handled and weighed the same as a 572 kinda like a 6400 to a 7900 dolmar the 6400 is a good saw 7900 even better

 

[Spike60]

No matter what any of us say, it's hard for most of our opinions not to be swayed by our brand loyalties. If your saw is the heavier one, you are in favor of a more stoutly built saw that will withstand more punishment and likely last longer. If your saw is the lighter one, it's all about power to weight and the other saw is an anchor.

If these numbers were reversed, we'd all be singing the same arguments that we now disagree with.

 

[MustangMike]

How are you doing Bob, I'm sorry our paths did not cross this year. Always enjoy talking with you, and I did want to get to run a 572, even if I was not going to buy one!

 

[rocco490]

Both saws look to be great designs I could see having a 572/565 and a 462 I have enough room left on the shelf for both that might be the best option

 

[MarkEagleUSA]

Both saws look to be great designs I could see having a 572/565 and a 462 I have enough room left on the shelf for both that might be the best option

The 462 will work well to prop the door open!

 

[Derf]

No matter what any of us say, it's hard for most of our opinions not to be swayed by our brand loyalties. If your saw is the heavier one, you are in favor of a more stoutly built saw that will withstand more punishment and likely last longer. If your saw is the lighter one, it's all about power to weight and the other saw is an anchor.

If these numbers were reversed, we'd all be singing the same arguments that we now disagree with.

It doesn’t seem that long ago, in my mind, that Sawtroll would criticize any Stihl in a class with a Husky because it was down on power and up in weight, saying it was too heavy (in comparison to Husky) and awkward to use. Then the Stihl fans would defend the saw saying its was better built, “like a tank”, and would last longer, or that it “isn’t that much weight” and you’re not a real “man” if you worry about a pound or two, with the discussion usually digressing into comments about Husky saws losing bolts that would rattle lose during use.

Now I see that as of 2018, the 550xp has moved to torx screws with knurling on the underside. The 562xp already moved over to them, and the 572xp is coming out the gate starting with them. So no more worries about losing screws.

The ms462 and 572xp are similar in so many ways, Husky copied Stihl’s flippy caps, and Stihl has spring AV, Husky makes saws with internal clutches, and Stihl is using air injection filtration. Now the old arguments are being flipped on their head: the Stihl guys are lauding the new saw for being so much lighter than the competition, like suddenly that is what matters most to them. And Husky is using big beefy bearings and built like a tank, but now I hear complaints about how heavy it is and how much more tempting it is to buy the lighter Stihl option. (Not to mention, the complaints usually come from guys who have more creamsicle colored saws than orange (or orange and grey) ones.)

There is heavy brand loyalty, and no one is changing their minds about what is a better brand. I totally agree with and love your post that if the characteristics were reversed, those that are whining about weight would be singing the praises of a bigger bearing in the bottom end.

 

[AlfA01]

Being a non-biased saw guy, it is really hard having both of these saws sitting in your house, and not being able to run them. I have ran the two saws, albeit, not extensively.

I keep telling people the roles are reversed with these saws a bit. I ask the question of whether the saw will be used for firewood and arborist work, or will it be logging saw.

I tell the people if they want a heavy duty saw for logging and heavy duty forestry work, choose the 572 IMO, as it has the torque and the bottom end to deal with long B/C combos and probably the lubing capability.

Both are very awesome saws, and again, I'd run either of them and you'd never hear me complain about weight.

Husky definitely wins the air filtration battle and the flippy fuel cap battle. And neither of these holds a candle to a good running 7900.

 

[MustangMike]

Good post and valid points, I agree with all of them.

For the record, I have always been a big fan of the 044/440, one of the lightest 70 cc saws made by either company. Some preferred the spring AV of the 372, and weight was not much different. The AV is a personal preference thing, and they are very close in weight, both great saws. IMO, the 044/440 is generally stronger in unported form, and the 372 is stronger in ported form, but they are close enough that this statement will not be universally true.

It seems both companies have responded to their critics. Husky has come out with new bolts, redesigned the 562 with an extra bolt even though it made it heavier, and developed a stout 572.

Stihl has lightened up both the 261 and 362 (Ver II of each), and plans to release the light weight 462 and 500i.

Competition is good, and I hope both companies result in better products for themselves and their competition.

 

[MustangMike]

And neither of these holds a candle to a good running 7900

Hybrid for the win!!! Lighter and runs just as strong.

 

[AlfA01]

Hybrid for the win!!! Lighter and runs just as strong.

For the builders out there, the options and improvements are endless. But for the guy that just wants to buy a saw and have it work for him right off the shelf is the main debate between the 572 and 462.

For me, it would be a hard decision, but I believe I would truly be happy with either saw also.

 

[huskyboy]

Hybrids are nice sporty saws done right. Just prefer the torque of the 7900/7910 and 461 myself.

 

[MustangMike]

I think my 460 has the same torque, maybe more.

 

[MG2186]

Hybrids are nice sporty saws done right. Just prefer the torque of the 7900/7910 and 461 myself.

I’ve run some good 7900/7910 and 461’s but I’d still rather run my 2171’s with the RWJ’s on them. They are as strong and I like the feel of them. Just my preference, all are great saws. Probably the best saw of each mfg but I’m talking non x-torque

 

[ferris]

And neither of these holds a candle to a good running 7900.

Why you a comparing a 79cc saw with a 70-72 cc saw?
Compare them with a 7300.
Or do you compare a 390xp with a 7900, because the difference in cc is nearly the same.

Or wait for the 500i (79cc) an compare that with the 7900

 

[AlfA01]

Why you a comparing a 79cc saw with a 70-72 cc saw?
Compare them with a 7300.
Or do you compare a 390xp with a 7900, because the difference in cc is nearly the same.

Or wait for the 500i (79cc) an compare that with the 7900

I'm not comparing them. Just making a joke...

 

[andyshine77]

Why you a comparing a 79cc saw with a 70-72 cc saw?
Compare them with a 7300.
Or do you compare a 390xp with a 7900, because the difference in cc is nearly the same.

Or wait for the 500i (79cc) an compare that with the 7900

I believe they are often compared do to the fact the 7900 has similar dimensions and weight as other smaller 70cc saws.

 

[huskyboy]

I’ve run some good 7900/7910 and 461’s but I’d still rather run my 2171’s with the RWJ’s on them. They are as strong and I like the feel of them. Just my preference, all are great saws. Probably the best saw of each mfg but I’m talking non x-torque

I’d rather buy a ported 2171/372 over a hybrid just because of the filter and av are better. Similar snappy feel though. Jmho.

 

[huskyboy]

Why you a comparing a 79cc saw with a 70-72 cc saw?
Compare them with a 7300.
Or do you compare a 390xp with a 7900, because the difference in cc is nearly the same.

Or wait for the 500i (79cc) an compare that with the 7900

They weigh and cost similar to the others in the 5 cube class