372xp woes... stalls at idle when you change orientation

[Mattyo]

Swapping between 2 China carbs. The original one seems to have the tip forward issue only....which is remedied by leaning out the low screw.

The other carb seems hopeless. Can't lean it out enough and the idle cycles up and down whimsically. Stalls after a cut etc.

So the first carb seems to tune now...though its on the edge of being too lean on the low side. The high end is bang on perfect....so at this point I'm not worried. What a pain though. I become more and more convinced that if you are going to build saws you need to have a fantastic stash of spare parts to swap things otherwise the frustration level will be unbearable

 

[jmssaws]

A name brand carb will fix the problem

 

[malk315]

I hate China. They pride themselves on copying good stuff and making it suck in the process. How can you go through life innovating jack chit.

There's a reason they don't sell real saws at wally world... Long live USA, Sweden, and Germany!

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[MustangMike]

The last carb I ordered through Huztl (for an 044) said ZAMA on it, and is likely the same carb you would get through Stihl. Also, I think all the rebuild kits are from China also.

 

[malk315]

When I was in China working on the new Disney park Disney would have imported the concrete if they could never mind steel structure and the like for the rides. We watched each night they were pouring concrete they would dump garbage in with the concrete... to cheat. Contracts mean nothing in China.... quality is not a word in Mandarin...

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[MustangMike]

I hate China. They pride themselves on copying good stuff and making it suck in the process. How can you go through life innovating jack chit.

There's a reason they don't sell real saws at wally world... Long live USA, Sweden, and Germany!

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I believe the "preferred" carbs made for Stihl were made in Japan, which used to be viewed just like China.

 

[jmssaws]

Out of a pile of aftermarket carbs I have found no good ones. They are a waist of money.

 

[jmssaws]

I believe the "preferred" carbs made for Stihl were made in Japan, which used to be viewed just like China.

Japan and China are two very different things

 

[Mattyo]

The first carb seems to be ok for now. J...u were right about it being too fat and having the positional issues.

The 2nd carb I'm wondering 2 things...the needle set too high..and maybe the spring is too weak on the needle.

 

[MustangMike]

I'm running 044#2 on one. Are not all the "new" carbs (even OEM) made in China???

 

[jmssaws]

All the clones I've tried have had idle problems that won't tune out.

 

[malk315]

I believe the "preferred" carbs made for Stihl were made in Japan, which used to be viewed just like China.

All of the track structure for Pirates of the Caribean at Shanghai Disney fabricated in Japan. I spent 3 weeks there integrating ride control software. Watching the Japanese work versus the Chinese is like night and day! The Japanese are some disciplined people. Lot of respect for those guys.

There was Japanese movie about a logger trainee on the plane I watched with subtitles. There was one bad azz Japanese guy running saws and he was using all stihl. They don't screw around in Japan .

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[MustangMike]

Japan and China are two very different things

Now yes. Years ago "made in Japan" was just as disdained as "made in China" is now. It was all considered "cheap junk".

 

[MustangMike]

All of the track structure for Pirates of the Caribean at Shanghai Disney fabricated in Japan. I spent 3 weeks there integrating ride control software. Watching the Japanese work versus the Chinese is like night and day! The Japanese are some disciplined people. Lot of respect for those guys.

There was Japanese movie about a logger trainee on the plane I watched with subtitles. There was one bad azz Japanese guy running saws and he was using all stihl. They don't screw around in Japan .

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I agree with you, in the last 50 years there has been a huge transformation.

 

[Mattyo]

J...

Seems like you used to like the cheap carbs...

http://www.arboristsite.com/communi...nt-richen-up-on-low-side.291322/#post-5694822

Or were u being sarcastic?

 

[jmssaws]

They work fine if your not picky about how they idle.

 

[jmssaws]

I will say not all Chinese parts are junk,I have a new ks 064 cylinder clone that is beautiful with a 3/4" thick base.
I'll do a thread comparing it to the real deal,stock for stock. It's the first aftermarket cylinder I've seen that will compete with its oem counter part.

 

[jmssaws]

I will say not all Chinese parts are junk,I have a new ks 064 cylinder clone that is beautiful with a 3/4" thick base.
I'll do a thread comparing it to the real deal,stock for stock. It's the first aftermarket cylinder I've seen that will compete with its oem counter part.

If anybody is interested in one of these cylinders contact @Definitive Dave

 

[Tor R]

Your guys get what you pay for.
I rather put a bit extra in one used Walbro carb and spend a few $ extra on kit instead wasting time on China carbs.
But give China 20 years and they will be up there, just the same development Japan went through for 40 years ago and to now

 

[beaglebriar]

I was going to buy a cheap carb to slap on a flip saw but this thread just changed my mind. Guess I'll buck up for OEM.