2011 husqvarna 562 high end bog/stall???

[super3]

562 has gone through 3 different carbs. el44 first, el46 second and now an el48.

I recently traded for a new 555. It has an el49.

 

[Mastermind]

I wish @Spike60 would tell us all the details on these carbs and stuff. I'm going off of a memory that I tried my damnest to burn out when I was younger.

 

[beaglebriar]

I absolutely agree that a good dealer is the best way to go.

Bob needed the numbers off my coil to program the new carb.

Is it possible to swap just the carb and leave the electronic stuff as is??

Don't know if it would make any difference but if I had a spare carb when I was having issues I know I'd be playing around with it.

 

[Idahonative]

Because it doesn't have an adjustable carb? It's still just a chainsaw.

You're right, it's still just a chainsaw but carb problems on the 562 puts it into the NOT JUST ANOTHER CHAINSAW category since 99.9% of owners cannot work on them. Do you have the ability to diagnose and work on an auto tune saw? If you do then that's awesome but unfortunately the average owner does not. What a pain in the ass to have to take a perfectly good saw back to dealer because of an auto tune problem. The fix may be something as simple as plugging it into their computer. But still, the wasted time and aggravation of being held hostage to the electronics seems ridiculous on a piece of equipment that doesn't need to be complicated to perform well.

 

[beaglebriar]

You're right, it's still just a chainsaw but carb problems on the 562 puts it into the NOT JUST ANOTHER CHAINSAW category since 99.9% of owners cannot work on them. Do you have the ability to diagnose and work on an auto tune saw? If you do then that's awesome but unfortunately the average owner does not. What a pain in the ass to have to take a perfectly good saw back to dealer because of an auto tune problem. The fix may be something as simple as plugging it into their computer. But still, the wasted time and aggravation of being held hostage to the electronics seems ridiculous on a piece of equipment that doesn't need to be complicated to perform well.

Dude we get it. Let it go....

 

[Idahonative]

Dude we get it. Let it go....

Ok dad, I'll let it go.

 

[exSW]

It ain't always the computer. While back my kid had his iPhone plugged into his Jeep(don't ask for details). He said the pgm was acting up. I asked him if he checked how well the box was grounded. I got one of those "Oh Dad" looks. Four,five hours later he shined up the ground and drove off.

 

[Red97]

I absolutely agree that a good dealer is the best way to go.

Bob needed the numbers off my coil to program the new carb.

Is it possible to swap just the carb and leave the electronic stuff as is??

Don't know if it would make any difference but if I had a spare carb when I was having issues I know I'd be playing around with it.

Bout 2.5 hours stright south. Maybe we can make a deal.

@Red97 I have a el46 laying around that you could throw on your saw just to see if it makes any difference. It worked OK on my saw but it did have the off idle bog. It's yours for the low low price of $0.00 if you want it.

I will keep that in mind. Thank you very much for the offer.

This thread is a bit pre mature, being the saw hasn't even made it to the bench yet.

You can't just swap the 44 for the 46. The controller is different. Hell.....even the wires are different if my brain ain't too frizzled.

I do believe I heard something to that extent before.

 

[Mastermind]

Is anyone here old enough to remember electronic carbs on cars? If so, do you remember the vacuum over electric solenoids that were always messing up on the first EPA mandated cars? I was in Central Carolina Community College from 81 - 82 studying Auto Tech. I remember it well. I think this is where we are with saws......in the *s-wordty electronic carb stage. Between these carbs, and stratified engines, we are seeing very strong running units that meet EPA standards. Are they perfect? Hell NO. This is but a stepping stone on the path the fuel injected small engines though. Personally, I'm looking forward to seeing these beasts. Would you like to go back to carbs and points on your cars? Me either, and someday we will look back and feel the same way about our saws.

 

[huskihl]

Is anyone here old enough to remember electronic carbs on cars? If so, do you remember the vacuum over electric solenoids that were always messing up on the first EPA mandated cars? I was in Central Carolina Community College from 81 - 82 studying Auto Tech. I remember it well. I think this is where we are with saws......in the *s-wordty electronic carb stage. Between these carbs, and stratified engines, we are seeing very strong running units that meet EPA standards. Are they perfect? Hell NO. This is but a stepping stone on the path the fuel injected small engines though. Personally, I'm looking forward to seeing these beasts. Would you like to go back to carbs and points on your cars? Me either, and someday we will look back and feel the same way about our saws.

I think you're right. Hopefully they'll be able to design lightweight efi

 

[sunfish]

Randy, I do remember and had a couple of crappy ones.

Then bought a new Ford truck in 86 with 302 & port fuel injection. Damn that was nice!!!

 

[super3]

Is anyone here old enough to remember electronic carbs on cars?

Unfortunately yes.

 

[Mastermind]

Unfortunately yes.

I bet you get what I'm saying then huh Mike?

 

[Mastermind]

Randy, I do remember and had a couple of crappy ones.

Then bought a new Ford truck in 86 with 302 & port fuel injection. Damn that was nice!!!

I've got a 88 Chevy with TBI. I love that damn truck.

 

[cgraham1]

My '84 CJ-7 had a 258 I-6 with an electronic carburetor. What a pile of *s-word. I am currently in the process of swapping in a fuel injected 4.0 from a much newer Jeep.

 

[dall]

i guess time will tell on saws but didnt the epa tell the bike makers they had to go to 4 strokes and do away with the 2 strokes ?

 

[Idahonative]

Is anyone here old enough to remember electronic carbs on cars? If so, do you remember the vacuum over electric solenoids that were always messing up on the first EPA mandated cars? I was in Central Carolina Community College from 81 - 82 studying Auto Tech. I remember it well. I think this is where we are with saws......in the *s-wordty electronic carb stage. Between these carbs, and stratified engines, we are seeing very strong running units that meet EPA standards. Are they perfect? Hell NO. This is but a stepping stone on the path the fuel injected small engines though. Personally, I'm looking forward to seeing these beasts. Would you like to go back to carbs and points on your cars? Me either, and someday we will look back and feel the same way about our saws.

I understand where you're coming from and I agree with you. The differences between my '92 Cummins and '05 Cummins are a great example. I love both trucks...one being mechanically and one being electronically controlled. As much as I like the '05, I still find myself hating the electronic stuff because I don't understand it and don't have the ability to work on it. Just like the 562xp, I'm held hostage by the electronics. Awesome yes, when they are running correctly but we are at the computers mercy and I hate that.

Call me paranoid or weird or whatever but the thing that worries me most about the electronics is their vulnerability to electro magnetic pulses. A large solar flare from our sun could destroy important, electronically controlled things like our power grid, cars, 562xp chainsaws (haha...LOL).
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/...-sent-us-back-to-a-post-apocalyptic-stone-age

An EMP attack would do the same thing but if it comes to that, we have bigger problems than our chainsaws or power grid not working. I fight between resisting technology and embracing it. Who knows, someday I might end up with an auto tune chainsaw...but I doubt it.

 

[exSW]

Can you say Chrysler Lean Burn?

 

[Mastermind]

I understand where you're coming from and I agree with you. The differences between my '92 Cummins and '05 Cummins are a great example. I love both trucks...one being mechanically and one being electronically controlled. As much as I like the '05, I still find myself hating the electronic stuff because I don't understand it and don't have the ability to work on it. Just like the 562xp, I'm held hostage by the electronics. Awesome yes, when they are running correctly but we are at the computers mercy and I hate that.

Call me paranoid or weird or whatever but the thing that worries me most about the electronics is their vulnerability to electro magnetic pulses. A large solar flare from our sun could destroy important, electronically controlled things like our power grid, cars, 562xp chainsaws (haha...LOL).
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/...-sent-us-back-to-a-post-apocalyptic-stone-age

An EMP attack would do the same thing but if it comes to that, we have bigger problems than our chainsaws or power grid not working. I fight between resisting technology and embracing it. Who knows, someday I might end up with an auto tune chainsaw...but I doubt it.

Great post........and I feel ya brother. lol

I can only reset the AT saws now. Husky made my AT tool obsolete. Now you have to log into Mother Husky for updates and stuff. They wanna put guys like me outta business.

Can you say Chrysler Lean Burn?

And floor jets in the intake from the exhaust crossover passage? I mean.......WTF were they thinking? I took em out and welded em up.......

 

[pro94lt]

Is anyone here old enough to remember electronic carbs on cars? If so, do you remember the vacuum over electric solenoids that were always messing up on the first EPA mandated cars? I was in Central Carolina Community College from 81 - 82 studying Auto Tech. I remember it well. I think this is where we are with saws......in the *s-wordty electronic carb stage. Between these carbs, and stratified engines, we are seeing very strong running units that meet EPA standards. Are they perfect? Hell NO. This is but a stepping stone on the path the fuel injected small engines though. Personally, I'm looking forward to seeing these beasts. Would you like to go back to carbs and points on your cars? Me either, and someday we will look back and feel the same way about our saws.

I still have a quadrajet 4 barrel in my shop with some sort of plunger solenoid from the looks of it mtronic/ autotune copied that design except the truck had an 02 sensor...