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My grandpa bought this new in 1987 roughly. It had rough bearings, could hear them while running it. The saw is in very nice condition after being the only saw he had on the farm. Flywheel side bearings was very loose, clutch side is rough. Cylinder feels good with finger, not sure if it needs cleaning. Piston has scratches in it. Anyone use a full aftermarket rebuild kit? All the mounts are fine, but should be replaced. I don't think this saw has ever had anything more than a carb cleaning in its life. IMG_20160219_112343114-1600x900.jpg IMG_20160219_112558098-1200x2133.jpg IMG_20160219_112648284-1200x2133.jpg
 
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It is a 50 mm cylinder. Will need piston, bearing and seal kit, and full set of rubber.
 

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I've saved pistons that were in worse shape but if you find a better one it might be a good idea.
In case you didn't know it the 038 AV has some features you won't find on many saw engines. First it has a hemi domed piston,then an off set combustion chamber and finally a stippled intake port . .
 

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OOPS ,I might have been mistaken looking at the pics .It might be an 038 super and if so disregard what I said .
 

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It's a super. Will be buying a new piston, this one has a lot of hours on it.
 

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I'm suprised the saw bearings ever went. That saw is extremely tough and overbuilt.

I guess 30 years of service ain't too bad though.

Rebuilding with OEM parts and taking care of it, I bet it will last you a lifetime. Use good oil at 32:1.
 

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That series,038 is my favorite of all the Stihls .Strange as it might seem I've never seen an 038 super .For some reason of all of them the 038 magnum is more numerous.As mentioned those things are build tough like battle ships .
 

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I just sold a super clean All original Super for $300 shipped. Sat for months and months.

Compared to the 044, these saws are much heavier with bigger everything. Very much akin to the 028 vs. the 026.
 

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oem, bearings 12.00 each, piston 45.00. gasket set with seals 30.oo. prices are est from recent rebuilds
Didn't think the 038 stuff would of dropped price too. Will have to get price on mounts and intake too. The saw will either stay here or go back to the farm.
 

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I'm suprised the saw bearings ever went. That saw is extremely tough and overbuilt.

I guess 30 years of service ain't too bad though.

Rebuilding with OEM parts and taking care of it, I bet it will last you a lifetime. Use good oil at 32:1.
This is the 2nd saw my grandpa had. He bought a Mac 44a in 1954 or so. Ran that until he bought the 038 in 1987. For many years he sold firewood. He also cut and sawed lumber on the farm. In the 70's they cut and sawed many thousands of tobacco lathe. Anything to supplement milking 30 cows.
 

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I just sold a super clean All original Super for $300 shipped. Sat for months and months.

Compared to the 044, these saws are much heavier with bigger everything. Very much akin to the 028 vs. the 026.
This saw is very important to me, many memories with it. The last time I ran it with my grandpa he was in his 80's. We dropped a dozen red oaks to mill flooring and trim for a house I was building. He would drop a tree, walking with a walking stick and the saw. Then I would take it and drop the next one. He kept telling me things and showing me what to do. I seriously considered burying that saw with him when he passed 6 years ago.
 

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I also had an o38 that was bulletproof and was always my favorite saw but it was stolen a few years back after my dad passed away. He had bought it brand new in the early 80s and was his only saw for all those years. It was heavy but it ran good and was always reliable.
 

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Some say that series of design was the last of the truely "Iron Dukes " of sawdom done by Stihl .Included are the 028,the 38's ,042 and 048 .I have examples of all of them .In stock trim what they might lack in a few RPM's they make up for in torque .All of them take modificatons very well if a person wanted to go that route .

Oh some might complain about few pounds heavier than a more modern example .WTH , man up .I'm 210 pounds 6 feet tall but I'm also 68 years old .If I can still sling them around with relative ease I can't see how somebody half my age cannot .--mumble grumble ---
 

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Didn't think the 038 stuff would of dropped price too. Will have to get price on mounts and intake too. The saw will either stay here or go back to the farm.
I've never known the almighty Stihl to ever drop prices on anything .
 

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That is completely out of character for that for any company that sells OEM parts .Besides Stihl some of note are Harley-Davidson ,John Deere and Caterpillar .You don't suppose the after market stuff is dipping into their profits or something ? It certainly has nothing to do with the kindness of their hearts .
 
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