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The stock air filter on the 261 is one of the very best filters on any saw on the market.
Once upon a time I'd have agreed with this statement word for word. The MS261 system looks fantastic and appears to tick all the boxes with a auto style round filter with huge surface area (pleats) and a particle separation system (air injection) to compliment the system as a whole. But after putting many hours on MS261's I have founds this air filtration system to have major faults (this is in MY conditions cutting Aussie hardwood species). Both my MS261's leak/let in air at the rubber seal which is not practically fixed with grease. The air injection system draws in air from the front area of the saw NOT the rear where cleaner air is available. This translates to fines not chips packing up the filter. Those who run these saws will notice the filter gets packed on the top & bottom not evenly including the sides. The filtration system works MUCH better if you ditch the top cover cowling so the saw draws air from the rear of the saw. This is not a practical solution I use but it works much better. I've tried plugging the air injection port which helped but was not perfect. The MS261 filter to the naked eye looks near perfect and it is much better than older saws of yesteryear but it could be largely improved. I say improve the seal & ditch the air injection and make a cowling that has fine mesh holes drawing in air from the rear end of the saw. I've come to this conclusion through most days having to clean MS261 filters. The saw dust is SO fine that gets packed in will not come out by tapping the filter it needs to be vacuumed out or blasted out with compressed air. Yeah so IME there is a lot of room for improvement with this state of the art air filtration system.
 

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Once upon a time I'd have agreed with this statement word for word. The MS261 system looks fantastic and appears to tick all the boxes with a auto style round filter with huge surface area (pleats) and a particle separation system (air injection) to compliment the system as a whole. But after putting many hours on MS261's I have founds this air filtration system to have major faults (this is in MY conditions cutting Aussie hardwood species). Both my MS261's leak/let in air at the rubber seal which is not practically fixed with grease. The air injection system draws in air from the front area of the saw NOT the rear where cleaner air is available. This translates to fines not chips packing up the filter. Those who run these saws will notice the filter gets packed on the top & bottom not evenly including the sides. The filtration system works MUCH better if you ditch the top cover cowling so the saw draws air from the rear of the saw. This is not a practical solution I use but it works much better. I've tried plugging the air injection port which helped but was not perfect. The MS261 filter to the naked eye looks near perfect and it is much better than older saws of yesteryear but it could be largely improved. I say improve the seal & ditch the air injection and make a cowling that has fine mesh holes drawing in air from the rear end of the saw. I've come to this conclusion through most days having to clean MS261 filters. The saw dust is SO fine that gets packed in will not come out by tapping the filter it needs to be vacuumed out or blasted out with compressed air. Yeah so IME there is a lot of room for improvement with this state of the art air filtration system.


Good to hear from you guys in Australia. From my experience in building a great many saws for those down under, there is no greater test of a filtration system than your dry hard wood. Even the MaxFlow system falls short at times.
 

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Is it possible to drill some holes in the plastic cowl and maybe use some Frog Skinz to allow the saw to breathe cleaner air?
 

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Weeellllll ..... Not Exactly.....

I can remember everyone told me the 362 C Ver I was heavier than a 562 because the internet said it was ...

Remember???

Meanwhile, I went to the store and picked each one up and didn't feel it. I remember!!!
We are all well aware that you are beyond passionate about the number of grams it takes to create a magnificent Stihl chainsaw, but what does this have to do with "Stihl 261 mtronic air filter options"?
 

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You're right mike, you don't even come close.

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Hey wait a minute you had a coworker take a pic of you?

Once upon a time I'd have agreed with this statement word for word. The MS261 system looks fantastic and appears to tick all the boxes with a auto style round filter with huge surface area (pleats) and a particle separation system (air injection) to compliment the system as a whole. But after putting many hours on MS261's I have founds this air filtration system to have major faults (this is in MY conditions cutting Aussie hardwood species). Both my MS261's leak/let in air at the rubber seal which is not practically fixed with grease. The air injection system draws in air from the front area of the saw NOT the rear where cleaner air is available. This translates to fines not chips packing up the filter. Those who run these saws will notice the filter gets packed on the top & bottom not evenly including the sides. The filtration system works MUCH better if you ditch the top cover cowling so the saw draws air from the rear of the saw. This is not a practical solution I use but it works much better. I've tried plugging the air injection port which helped but was not perfect. The MS261 filter to the naked eye looks near perfect and it is much better than older saws of yesteryear but it could be largely improved. I say improve the seal & ditch the air injection and make a cowling that has fine mesh holes drawing in air from the rear end of the saw. I've come to this conclusion through most days having to clean MS261 filters. The saw dust is SO fine that gets packed in will not come out by tapping the filter it needs to be vacuumed out or blasted out with compressed air. Yeah so IME there is a lot of room for improvement with this state of the art air filtration system.

Get some frogzskins to redirect some air. 20170708_211304.jpg
 

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Hey wait a minute you had a coworker take a pic of you?



Get some frogzskins to redirect some air. View attachment 115018

No, my woman had a Dr. Appointment and brought me lunch that day and snapped a few, I never get many pictures of jobs...I'm always scared I'm gonna break my phone.
 

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Good to hear from you guys in Australia. From my experience in building a great many saws for those down under, there is no greater test of a filtration system than your dry hard wood. Even the MaxFlow system falls short at times.

It does it in amuricn' dry wood too...
 
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I think frogskins and a closing of the particle separation port would improve things a lot. Despite the MS261 filter system leaking, its only really fine ground wood dust media getting past and upon piston/case inspection about every six months when I strip them down for a clean and possible ring replacement. I don't see any negative effects from stuff being ingested. I've come to believe muh 261 don't mine eatin a lil wood dust for breakfast.
 

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Nice. Is it stock or ported?
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Do you think they would help Ryan? Drill some strategic holes in the plastic cover and put those on?
Maybe keep the filter a bit cleaner?
 

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We are all well aware that you are beyond passionate about the number of grams it takes to create a magnificent Stihl chainsaw, but what does this have to do with "Stihl 261 mtronic air filter options"?

If you read a little more closely, you will be able to put my post in proper context. A blanket statement was made.
 
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