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    A majestic red oak fell over into a neighbor's field from all the rain. The saw in the picture is my MMWS 461 running full comp square ground chain on a 32" bar. I will tell you that this combo blew through this tree like it was a twig. This saw puts the "work" :pesas::coleman:in work saw. Never bogged a bit. I took out 3 saw logs from the bole this weekend. Looking forward to bucking up the rest for firewood. 20180826_202013.jpg
     
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    I have a moobs 461 as well, favorite saw to take to the woods.
     
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    I like this saw for felling and for bucking the bigger trees. The only complaint I have, is that this saw pulls so dang strong, that I can't justify getting a ported 661. I upgraded the oiler to h.o., so I'm pretty sure I throw a 36" bar with full skip chain. That would take care of any tree in my woods.
     
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    It would
     
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    Plenty of power, just not sure the oiler would keep up?
     
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    Deets066 AKA Deetsey

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    If it has the HO Oiler it’ll be fine, what’s the worst that could happen?
     
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    Burn up bar and chain.
     
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    Wouldn’t burn it up, may be a fuzz more wear but for the limited time you’d run that setup I doubt there would be an issue.

    You could always mod the Oiler if your worried about it, there are a few threads with detailed instructions.
     
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    Or you could just keep talking yourself into that ported 661 in the classifieds.

    :)
     
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    Yeah, that one's killing me.
     
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    Oak really doesn't cut that hard .Certainly not as bad as standing dead hickory or ash .
    People who are unaccustom to oak think of it like the wall studding from a 100 year old building where it's as hard as granite .In the log form from a wind blown tree it's not .
     
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    My property is primarily oak and poplar with lesser amounts of beech, black birch, soft maple and cherry. None of those are particularly tough to saw or split.
     
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    White oak is quite a bit harder than red or black oak. Tests the oiler pretty good too.
     
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    Got any dead locust or dry white oak stumps? That will test it.

    You will feel it tighten up if the oil ain't there. Try it. I test in them for long bars. My 660 lacks with a 36" or 40" bar. Just lift and let it oil up every ten seconds. In wet wood you see the steam before the chain binds.
    Nice setup.
     
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    The stump in my avatar was a dead standing white oak with most of the bark off vs. my 32" bar. It blew through that with the bar completely buried.
     
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    Some old locust logs...ugh...wasn't sure if I should use the chainsaw or demo saw.
     
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    Dead locust can get pretty hard .Black locust is nearly as rot proof as osage orange .Hardest I've ever seen was a piece of almost petrified beech that Copesy found .It humbled every thing that was thrown at it .125 Macs,084 Stihls,a couple of 090's and at least several 3120 Huskeys .Larry S even attacked it with a Mercury Distton which even bogged that monster down .That's 180 cc and 9 HP .
     
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    Not a 461. But this is my 460 running a 32" 3/8 semi skip square cutting a dead Ash tree. Very very hard wood.

     
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    Yeah. I know. I already upgraded the piston in the oiler to the h.o version. "Been there, done that." I'm sure it could oil a 36" bar and chain in hard wood. Next time I need more than 32" bar and chain I will certainly invest in 36" b&c. Look for a good deal on 32" b&c when the time comes.
     
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