MS261CM M-Tronic Issues and Many GFY’s

[tree monkey]

I think that's normal

 

[tree monkey]

well it should be more like 28-32 deg, stock

 

[huskihl]

well it should be more like 28-32 deg, stock

I'll do it again tomorrow and confirm. Not sure if I can get video of it or not

 

[huskihl]

Checked stock ms261 v2 timing again today. Couldn't get a video without an extra hand. 21° btdc from 4k through 13k

 

[drf256]

Do coils actually “advance” timing, or do they just retard it for low rpm and then go back to wherever they are set statically?

Guess it’s the same difference in some ways?

Do MT coils store the energy of both magnet packs, fire twice, or does the magnet pack that passes at BDC just a sensor for the MT fuel system?

 

[DND 9000]

Ignition coils and of course the m-tronic control units too advance the ignition timing since many years forward and backwards, depending on the current running conditions.

The 2nd pair of poles on a m-tronic flywheel is for powering the m-tronic system. Control units don`t store energy if the machine is turned off, but during starting they wake up within a few milliseconds.

Example: On the TS 500i control unit, the wakeup and synconizing process during starting is done in 150ms.

 

[CR888]

I’m not Running anything @ 50:1.

Neither am I but I recommended changing oil ratio as 800 motul at 32:1 is a lot of oil. Other oils may be fine @32:1 but 800 motul viscosity is thick. So to rule it out I suggested changing oils or at least going back to 50:1. Motul may well be more oil @60:1 than other oils @50:1 . Viscosity index of oil can be important.

 

[hseII]

Neither am I but I recommended changing oil ratio as 800 motul at 32:1 is a lot of oil. Other oils may be fine @32:1 but 800 motul viscosity is thick. So to rule it out I suggested changing oils or at least going back to 50:1. Motul may well be more oil @60:1 than other oils @50:1 . Viscosity index of oil can be important.

That Makes sense.

I wonder if Julian has composed a chart?

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[CR888]

This guy has some good thoughts on common 2T oils found in the states. He made a ratio calculator to work out what ratio oils should be mixed at based on max rpm, displacement, load, viscosity, & what group base stock the oils are made of (1-5). Might be an interesting read for some, I don't agree with everything he writes but he has got a lot of good info learnt through building push bikes with air cooled 2T's.
http://www.dragonfly75.com/motorbike/oil.html

 

[Cobby08]

The northerners got weird gas. Winter blend, summer blend, *f-wordeduperthanasoupsandwich blend.

I'm with Redbull.....

It's fuel, or oil related.

Suck my trumpet, cow boy...

I’m not Running anything @ 50:1.




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Haaaatttttterz

 

[Mastermind]

Suck my trumpet, cow boy...


Haaaatttttterz

Below me Yank.

 

[dall]

Below me Yank.

it’s b low me

 

[Redfin]

Do coils actually “advance” timing, or do they just retard it for low rpm and then go back to wherever they are set statically?

Guess it’s the same difference in some ways?

Do MT coils store the energy of both magnet packs, fire twice, or does the magnet pack that passes at BDC just a sensor for the MT fuel system?

The 180* set of magnets is reverse polarity from the primary set.

 

[Cobby08]

Below me Yank.

You. Me. Disney World. Boom.

Vamanos!

 

[Mastermind]

You. Me. Disney World. Boom.

Vamanos!

Let's do it !!!

 

[Wonkydonkey]

You. Me. Disney World. Boom.

Vamanos!

Let's do it !!!

Who’s gonna be who...? Pics of dwarfs & Cinderella, or riding hood and bad wolf

 

[shadco]

Let's do it !!!

Do some folks need to get a room?



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[Wonkydonkey]

Is this a derail for some more bromance going’s on around here.

You guys wonna get on Grindr

 

[Cobby08]

Who’s gonna be who...? Pics of dwarfs & Cinderella, or riding hood and bad wolf

Moob's is Chicken little, or big bird...

 

[Mastermind]

Is this a derail for some more bromance going’s on around here.

You guys wonna get on Grindr

20 dollars is 20 dollars.