IEL-Pioneer thread

[Lee H]

If points are spotless then try a condenser. Seen it before
on other saws. Kinda trial and error at this point.

 

[67L36Driver]

I'll pull it apart again and really check things close. At first I thought the points were just dirty or oily.

 

[Basher]

Every mechanical part either wears out or has a lifespan. Many old condensers just dry up and stop storing electrical charge. I have yet to loose a coil from the RA on up through the Pioneer lineup but the ones used on the IEL saws self destruct, the covering cracks/splits all to heck on those ones.

 

[Lee H]

I have to disagree on the Pioneer coils. I restored and rebuilt a few
last summer. Models 700, 750, 850, 1850, 1771 and all use the same
green coil. Everyone was all cracked and junk. I even bought a few
new ones from Rottmans and one was all cracked in the box.

 

[67L36Driver]

I have to disagree on the Pioneer coils. I restored and rebuilt a few
last summer. Models 700, 750, 850, 1850, 1771 and all use the same
green coil. Everyone was all cracked and junk. I even bought a few
new ones from Rottmans and one was all cracked in the box.

It's the plastic they used in the fiftys.

Every Remington Logmaster I've had the coils were shot.

 

[67L36Driver]

Alice has her spark back.

Stupid geezer didn't get the condenser lead on the points post.[emoji849]

 

[Lee H]

I'd fire that geezer, Teach him a lesson.

 

[jacob j.]

Somebody found a replacement coil for some of the bigger Pioneer one-man saws, I think it was Huck0155. It was a coil made for a single cylinder outboard motor from the late 60's/early 70's.

 

[Wagnerwerks]

Is there a recipe for replacement of the farmsaw blue coils?

I have one here that means a lot to my brother in laws dad. It has already been converted to a Farmlite starter with the heavier starter.

 

[Lee H]

Your correct Jacob, The coil is from an out board just not sure which one.
Just found it. Preffered parts J802, Ebay # 221730199876

 

[Basher]

I have to disagree on the Pioneer coils. I restored and rebuilt a few
last summer. Models 700, 750, 850, 1850, 1771 and all use the same
green coil. Everyone was all cracked and junk. I even bought a few
new ones from Rottmans and one was all cracked in the box.

Wrong series of saws, the Ra and the Pioneer 600 series shared the same coils.

 

[jacob j.]

Is there a recipe for replacement of the farmsaw blue coils?

I have one here that means a lot to my brother in laws dad. It has already been converted to a Farmlite starter with the heavier starter.

If you send me a pic of it, I probably have a replacement. I have several Farmsaw/Farmsaw II carcasses here.

 

[Wagnerwerks]

Awesome. Thank JJ. I'll have to dig it out.

I was down to their farm this weekend and "gave" them a mildly ported 357xp to replace it. They're super people and I just found out the sentimental part... Figured I'd try and figure it out.

 

[rocketnorton]

Somebody found a replacement coil for some of the bigger Pioneer one-man saws, I think it was Huck0155. It was a coil made for a single cylinder outboard motor from the late 60's/early 70's.

Your correct Jacob, The coil is from an out board just not sure which one.
Just found it. Preffered parts J802, Ebay # 221730199876

I have the j802 wrote down here, along w/584477. omc p/n. have never tried it tho.

 

[dall]

Is there a recipe for replacement of the farmsaw blue coils?

I have one here that means a lot to my brother in laws dad. It has already been converted to a Farmlite starter with the heavier starter.

i have one you can have wagner i have a farmsaw parts saw

 

[Wagnerwerks]

i have one you can have wagner i have a farmsaw parts saw

That would be awesome.

 

[Nitehawk55]

 

[Nitehawk55]

Pics of my P38 were too big , anyway I just got done doing the fuel hoses and carb today as it has been sitting most of 35 years and thankfully the owner dumped the gas out !
This was the 2nd of 2 P38's this fellows father bought together in 1981 and this was the back up saw which was hardly used .

Problem...NO SPARK !!....were do you start with these of just find a good module ?

 

[Basher]

Does it have the blue Prestolite electronic module? If so its likely done for but we get some results sometimes by cooking them in the oven for an hour or so.

 

[Nitehawk55]

Yes it does , it's in the oven right now at 200 .
Shame , hardly used and won't fire . I guess that time is the enemy with electronics .

I did test the switch and wires for shorts and opens and tested good , the coil secondary showed it wasn't open either , had about 3k ohms if I read it correctly .

If the oven trick doesn't work I wonder how hard a good one of these are to find ?