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  1. FergusonTO35

    FergusonTO35 Pinnacle OPE Member

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    Give me a holler and we'll go make some smoke sometime.
     
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    Yea! If you don't mind that i'm still stuck in the 60s. I just love the way things were. This is my tech support. If anyone needs a good read let me know. But no trips to the Bathroom. Guitar 211.JPG Guitar 212.JPG Guitar 213.JPG Guitar 214.JPG Guitar 215.JPG
     
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    Very nice. Although, Lyman hasn't changed much at all since that time. My Lyman manuals from 1992 and 2012 are little different other than some powders have disappeared from the 2012 and some new ones have appeared.
     
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    Can you even buy 2x and 4x without permits?
     
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    Huh? What are 2X and 4X?
     
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    Granular designations of black powder?
     
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    If you're referring to black powder, then yes you can buy it over the counter. Now 1x and 4x for cannon and flash powder respectively can be hard to find, but it's nothing to buy it.
     
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    I still have 2x and 4x about half cans left. Is there a alternative to black powder 1,2,3,4x out now?
     
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    I see what they sell now.
     
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    Is 2x and 4x another term for FFG and FFFFG? You can buy real blackpowder at Reloader's Supply in Richmond or by mail order. If I ever get back into sidelocks that is exactly what I will use. With an inline there is no need to search it out or pay hazmat fees when substitutes work so well. Especially Triple 7, love that stuff! As far as I know, all the substitutes are designed to be a volume equivalent to blackpowder, not weight, and can be used in any gun intended for blackpowder.
     
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    That is what we damn Yankees called 2x = ffg 4x ffffg. Does the new alternative burns a lot faster?
     
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    As far as burn rate goes I don't know. My understanding is that Pyrodex is the most similar to black powder in terms of chemical makeup and pressure/velocity curve. The other subs such as Triple 7 and American Pioneer are made from completely different ingredients, chemically much closer to smokeless than BP. This explains their higher velocity and lower corrosive by-products. The best description I can come up with is that most subs are bulky and inefficient "smokeless" powders which produce similar pressures to black powder when used in the same volume.

    Alot of folks say that Blackhorn 209 is in fact a smokeless powder which has been formulated to have those same physical and performance characteristics as black powder and other subs. This makes sense, given that the manufacturer plainly states that sidelock guns will not ignite Blackhorn and recommends using oil based solvents for cleanup.
     
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