461 starting problems

[Stihl Potlicker]

It is inside the carb plate. Controls the needle valve inlet. Open too much, floods, open too little, runs lean.

ok. does this saw have carb limiters by chance?

 

[Stihl Potlicker]

Turn the low jet in 1/8 turn and try starting. If it still has a problem turn it another 1/8 turn and try again.

ok thanks

 

[Bigmac]

yes brand new. my starting procedure, 1) push in decomp, 2) put in full choke, 3) pull cord 2x(it will pop) 4) move to half choke and it floods

Ok sounds good, and only when cold. Once hot is it staring poorly too? Just to be clear you don’t use the choke once hot. Are you using the decomp only on choke, or every time you pull it over? Dose it still have the limiter caps, and how many turns out is each screw set at?

 

[Bigmac]

ok. does this saw have carb limiters by chance?

Yes it has limiter caps

 

[Stihl Potlicker]

Yes it has limiter caps

guess i will be yanking them out

Ok sounds good, and only when cold. Once hot is it staring poorly too? Just to be clear you don’t use the choke once hot. Are you using the decomp only on choke, or every time you pull it over? Dose it still have the limiter caps, and how many turns out is each screw set at?

yes still has limiter caps, no i dont use choke once hot. and use decomp every time. and she will start once sh is warmed up

 

[Chainsaw Jim]

How well does it fire up without using the decomp?

 

[Bigmac]

Try only using the decomp on the choke an not using it for the high idle start, like Jim said try leaning it out an 1/8 turn at a time. I have had several saws, many 660’s that wouldn’t start with the decomp on high idle, if I left the decomp closed they would start right up

 

[460 magnum]

Its probably just junk box it up and send it my way for disposal LOL

 

[huskihl]

After it pops on choke, are you touching the trigger? Or only sliding the lever up to high idle?

 

[hseII]

yes brand new. my starting procedure, 1) push in decomp, 2) put in full choke, 3) pull cord 2x(it will pop) 4) move to half choke and it floods

Pull the plug out & let it dry.

When it’s dry, after you make sure the tank is full of mix, leave the decomp alone & start the Saw.

All the way down with the selector on choke.

Pull it till it pops.

Flip up 1 position & pull it.

My 461s are the least pulling required saws I have, providing I do my part.

I’ve had one sit for 3 months & start on the 1st Pull.

Leave the Texas Button for the Texans.

 

[hseII]

How well does it fire up without using the decomp?

Like it’s sposed to.

 

[AlfA01]

Like it’s sposed to.

Dang, that must be nice. All my stuff works like it's opposed to..... opposed to working.

 

[hseII]

Dang, that must be nice. All my stuff works like it's opposed to..... opposed to working.

I’ve found the 461/660/661s to start better without the decomp.

 

[Bigmac]

I’ve found the 461/660/661s to start better without the decomp.

I agree, but once a base gasket delete or porting, that can change

 

[RI Chevy]

What's a decomp????? LOL

Sissy button

 

[Bigmac]

What's a decomp????? LOL

Sissy button

Haha! Call me a sissy on my 125!!! Drop starting that a have it stop and shake a 50” bar with using the decomp is sissy button worthy! My base gasket delete 461 pops the decomp every pull and will stop on a drop start even with the decomp, every once in s while!! Lol

 

[AlfA01]

What's a decomp????? LOL

Sissy button

Sissy button? Lmao. I agree, except that dang 562, she's a rope/recoil breaker.

 

[Bigmac]

I don’t know why, some saws need them some don’t!! And it’s not always compression

 

[RI Chevy]

Very true I was just funnin you guys. Lol

 

[Bigmac]

Very true I was just funnin you guys. Lol

I know, but sill!! I wish my 2100 had a sissy bottom! I put a stihl d-handle and that helped but there are times when it would be nice!