Wicked Worksaws - Wicked Work Saws - Terry Landrum - WWS

[BangBang77]

The funny colored beef and "gamey" taste and/or smell isn't due to the grass fed nature alone. It is primarily due to processing deficiencies, typically letting it hang too long before entrail removal or debone/cutup too soon before proper blood removal.

Grass fed beef does indeed taste different than grain fed or grain finished beef, but gamey it is not if processed correctly.

For the record - we slaughtered our own beef and hogs growing up (as well as wild game), beginning with the ball peen hammer to the head all the way to the frying pan. I didn't eat store bought meat until I was in boot camp at Ft. Benning back in the early 90's.

 

[MustangMike]

I was gong to say (I butcher my deer myself) I have had some grass fed deer (I check the stomach sometimes) that have tasted very good.

I'm picky with my butchering, turn as much into steaks as possible, spend the whole day doing it.

 

[BangBang77]

I was gong to say (I butcher my deer myself) I have had some grass fed deer (I check the stomach sometimes) that have tasted very good.

I'm picky with my butchering, turn as much into steaks as possible, spend the whole day doing it.

Bingo. If meat tastes gamey, you've done something wrong...

 

[Stump Shot]

You were born at St. Mary's too !?!?!?!?!

I was born at St. Mary's.

 

[3browns]

Tube steak?

No sir

Regular kine

 

[3browns]

The funny colored beef and "gamey" taste and/or smell isn't due to the grass fed nature alone. It is primarily due to processing deficiencies, typically letting it hang too long before entrail removal or debone/cutup too soon before proper blood removal.

Grass fed beef does indeed taste different than grain fed or grain finished beef, but gamey it is not if processed correctly.

For the record - we slaughtered our own beef and hogs growing up (as well as wild game), beginning with the ball peen hammer to the head all the way to the frying pan. I didn't eat store bought meat until I was in boot camp at Ft. Benning back in the early 90's.

I was gong to say (I butcher my deer myself) I have had some grass fed deer (I check the stomach sometimes) that have tasted very good.

I'm picky with my butchering, turn as much into steaks as possible, spend the whole day doing it.

Bingo. If meat tastes gamey, you've done something wrong...

All absolutely correct

That's why I question the taste, quality, color, etc of meat coming from a commercial, FDA inspected facility as possibly due to breed or feed because you assume (yeah, I know) that "pros" are doing it right

The consensus is that it's not breed or feed so that leaves the process they use

Bottom line is I am done buying their gamey psychedelic meat

 

[Dub11]

The funny colored beef and "gamey" taste and/or smell isn't due to the grass fed nature alone. It is primarily due to processing deficiencies, typically letting it hang too long before entrail removal or debone/cutup too soon before proper blood removal.

Grass fed beef does indeed taste different than grain fed or grain finished beef, but gamey it is not if processed correctly.

For the record - we slaughtered our own beef and hogs growing up (as well as wild game), beginning with the ball peen hammer to the head all the way to the frying pan. I didn't eat store bought meat until I was in boot camp at Ft. Benning back in the early 90's.

This hammer to the head reminds me of the time I helped some Filipinos prep a hog for a roast. They'd smack it with a hammer just enough to stun it then we'd hold it while they stabbed its jugular to collect the blood for blood pudding. They also boiled up a cbit load of rice to to run through the intestines to clean them out for stuffed fried thing that reminds you of an egg roll but way better.

I was born at St. Mary's.

Mary done got around.

 

[Al Smith]

My dads family owned a butcher shop in Pittsburgh Pa and taught me from a young age how to cut meat ,In the FFA in high school I placed eighth one year and seventh the second in the state wide meat judging contests .The instructor pizzed me of and there wasn't a third .That said I've cut up a lot of deer ..You have to get with it ,gut them and cool them out else they won't be fit to feed the dog . BTW Ohio corn fed and Colorado mule deer that eat sage brush and pine needles don't taste the same .I'll take the former over the later any time .

 

[Terry Syd]

Some times game meat is just a bit too gamey. I remember Grouse up in Washington State in the fall that had been eating the ends of the pine boughs and it tasted like turpentine. Then there were the pigs we shot out in the mountains near Mudgee in NSW in Australia. Crikey, they had been eating nothing but the bitter roots of some plant and were almost inedible.

Funny thing, the 'wild boar' meat of Australian boars is preferred in Europe as 'real' wild boar meat, it sells at a premium. Then there is the strong tasting male goat meat that is preferred in Asia as a 'hot' meat. I have to use a heap of spices in the Texas chili and bean mix I make up in the camp oven out in the bush to mask the taste.

 

[CR888]

When I was a 'Jackeroo' in central NQld we would carry around a few loops of paracord so if we saw any pigs while mustering you would ride alone side him wrap your leg over him and slow down then kinda lean or dump the weight of the bike on him to hold the pig so you could get off the bike and tie the legs up by looping a loop through & around the front & back feet. Then you would leave the pig live at a gate or point you will find on your way home at the end of the day/days muster. From the time you killed/gutted them you had to get them too the 'box' within the hour with certain organs remaining. If there were spots on kidney or liver they were no good. Good beer money @a couple of bucks per kg...price would fluctuate (20 year ago). Those pigs would end up in Germany! Sometimes if you caught a good few in the traps we'd make you'd earn more than the poor wages we got lol. Funny when you stumble on a pig family the piglets would stay with mum & the boar would tear off in a random direction. I saw plenty running at full noise not even slow down as the ran straight through fences. There heads were pretty tough!

 

[3browns]

When I was a 'Jackeroo' in central NQld we would carry around a few loops of paracord so if we saw any pigs while mustering you would ride alone side him wrap your leg over him and slow down then kinda lean or dump the weight of the bike on him to hold the pig so you could get off the bike and tie the legs up by looping a loop through & around the front & back feet. Then you would leave the pig live at a gate or point you will find on your way home at the end of the day/days muster. From the time you killed/gutted them you had to get them too the 'box' within the hour with certain organs remaining. If there were spots on kidney or liver they were no good. Good beer money @a couple of bucks per kg...price would fluctuate (20 year ago). Those pigs would end up in Germany! Sometimes if you caught a good few in the traps we'd make you'd earn more than the poor wages we got lol. Funny when you stumble on a pig family the piglets would stay with mum & the boar would tear off in a random direction. I saw plenty running at full noise not even slow down as the ran straight through fences. There heads were pretty tough!

Pig hunting is a pretty big deal in the islands

It is mostly done with large packs of specially trained dogs that run the pigs down and move in from all sides and grab a leg or snout or whatever and then the hunter pops them with a handgun

The dogs are mostly Pit Bull/T Rex crosses and they are HUGE

They almost always have wide padded/armored collars to protect their necks from slashing tusks and the more well to do hunters have Kevlar vests on their dogs as well

Dogs that get slashed up generally don't survive

Some even have GPS trackers on the dogs and can keep up with their location on a pad

I have never eaten any of the wild pig but an interesting side note is the locals say that the pigs that eat coconuts are the toughest and worst tasting

 

[MG porting]

Are we gonna have another hose measuring contest?

Mines long and thin!!!!!

 

[CR888]

Pig hunting is a pretty big deal in the islands

It is mostly done with large packs of specially trained dogs that run the pigs down and move in from all sides and grab a leg or snout or whatever and then the hunter pops them with a handgun

The dogs are mostly Pit Bull/T Rex crosses and they are HUGE

They almost always have wide padded/armored collars to protect their necks from slashing tusks and the more well to do hunters have Kevlar vests on their dogs as well

Dogs that get slashed up generally don't survive

Some even have GPS trackers on the dogs and can keep up with their location on a pad

I have never eaten any of the wild pig but an interesting side note is the locals say that the pigs that eat coconuts are the toughest and worst tasting

We would hunt them with dogs wearing chest guards, some of the illegal cross bread dogs were like nothing I've seen before. You couldn't have one of these things as a 'pet' they would destroy your house just wagging their tail. They looked like pittbulls....but 3x the size, big heads and full of power. They speed they would take off when you opened the cage on the ute was impressive. As soon as they'd get the scent of a pigs the back half of the truck would start shaking. lol. As the pigs were a nice money bonus, if we saw piglets you would step on their neck for a minute & they would pass out, & the little boars would get the field snip with the buck knife so they grew faster, fatter and could be had later down the track.

 

[Steve Billak]

I had an American bulldog that was bred as a hog dog from South Carolina. She 85lbs and looked like the Arnold of the dog world, she was so tuff she tore her acl in a ground hog hole and didn't even limp. I didnt know she was hurt for a month edited for pic

 

[3browns]

We would hunt them with dogs wearing chest guards, some of the illegal cross bread dogs were like nothing I've seen before. You couldn't have one of these things as a 'pet' they would destroy your house just wagging their tail. They looked like pittbulls....but 3x the size, big heads and full of power. They speed they would take off when you opened the cage on the ute was impressive. As soon as they'd get the scent of a pigs the back half of the truck would start shaking. lol. As the pigs were a nice money bonus, if we saw piglets you would step on their neck for a minute & they would pass out, & the little boars would get the field snip with the buck knife so they grew faster, fatter and could be had later down the track.

Sounds like you been there, done that, and got the T shirt

I kind of think the Hawaiian pig dogs are more like the original Pit Bulls that actually fought bulls back in the 16th through 19th century

Not the watered down modern variety (no offense to you pit bull owners)

And yeah, these dogs have heads that are too big for an orange Home Depot 5 gallon bucket

 

[MustangMike]

Sounds like Dogo Argentino … they are bred to hunt pigs and cougar. I had a 75 lb pit that I believe was 1/2 Dogo. He was a great dog (White w Brown splotches).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogo_Argentino

 

[3browns]

Sounds like Dogo Agrentino … they are bred to hunt pigs and cougar. I had a 75 lb pit that I believe was 1/2 Dogo. He was a great dog (White w Brown splotches).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogo_Argentino

As far as I know after talking with a lot of the locals these dogs are not any kind of breed but a mix of many of the larger breeds

There are all kinds of dogs used for this type of hunting but the majority make that Dogo dog look like an anemic sissy

I am not trying to put your dog or anyone else's dog down but these pig dogs are a whole nother ballgame

They are built much heavier than the picture you linked and I am not kidding about the size of their heads

Some of these dogs go well over 100 lbs

I will try to take some pictures when I go back

 

[MustangMike]

Sounds like they have a lot of Mastiff in them, but I believe Dogo's and Pit's are faster. My dog had lightning reflexes. My brother said he never saw a dog that was that big and strong that was that fast.

He sometimes backed adults off, but he loved kids.

 

[3browns]

Sounds like they have a lot of Mastiff in them, but I believe Dogo's and Pit's are faster. My dog had lightning reflexes. My brother said he never saw a dog that was that big and strong that was that fast.

He sometimes backed adults off, but he loved kids.

Every now and then a pup will come out with the massive body and head but with legs like a dachshund

Funny as hell

Reminds me of the old joke about the guy who bobs the nose and tail of an alligator, paints it yellow, and enters it in dog fights

 

[Al Smith]

I think any dog will chase deer .I had a female German shepherd the deer just had a ball with .Ran that dog until she nearly dropped and slowed down so the dog could catch up .I got to laughing so hard I nearly fell off the bulldozer I was building a pond with . Nice dog,not real bright .