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[heimannm]

Some time back a local guy brought in this MS210, I'm pretty sure the damage was a result of being flooded badly and trying to pull it over.



I put an low cost AM kit in it and the saw works well for his purposes.



The problem now is that the inner spring on the EZ start system comes out of the seat in the housing. This was happening before, but I reformed the hook on the end and it held up O.K. since October but he brought it back yesterday with the same issue.

I reformed the hook again, and applied a little redneckery heat treat and have it working again. Looking on line I only find the entire spring/housing available, and at $50 + that piece costs almost as much as the short block I put in.

The IPL does not list the spring separately, does anyone know if in fact that spring can be purchased individually?



Thanks,

Mark

 

[singinwoodwackr]

Some time back a local guy brought in this MS210, I'm pretty sure the damage was a result of being flooded badly and trying to pull it over.

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I put an low cost AM kit in it and the saw works well for his purposes.

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The problem now is that the inner spring on the EZ start system comes out of the seat in the housing. This was happening before, but I reformed the hook on the end and it held up O.K. since October but he brought it back yesterday with the same issue.

I reformed the hook again, and applied a little redneckery heat treat and have it working again. Looking on line I only find the entire spring/housing available, and at $50 + that piece costs almost as much as the short block I put in.

The IPL does not list the spring separately, does anyone know if in fact that spring can be purchased individually?

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Thanks,

Mark

I may have one...will check

 

[Sloughfoot]

This one's about 1 1/2 hours from us.

044 stihl chainsaw - tools - by owner - sale - craigslist

28 inch light bar, comes with round files, bar wrench and bar cleaning tool. Great saw just don’t use as much will be downsizing. Firm price

medford.craigslist.org

 

[heimannm]

Thank you Chris.

 

[Gary Courtney]

Just finished rebuilding a 500i given to me. Replaced seals,bearings,piston and rings,primer bulb. Cylinder was good with a little sanding and scuffing. I carried it out today and cut up a pin-oak a little bit bigger than my 28" bar. I am very impressed with the 500i's responsiveness. I was cautious on the throttle limbing. Bucking the big stuff I let it work for a couple rounds then let it cool for about 30 minutes before getting back to cutting with it. Running 32:1 in it.

 

[Gary Courtney]

 

[WI_Hedgehog]

Some time back a local guy brought in this MS210, I'm pretty sure the damage was a result of being flooded badly and trying to pull it over.

View attachment 482021

I put an low cost AM kit in it and the saw works well for his purposes.

View attachment 482024

The problem now is that the inner spring on the EZ start system comes out of the seat in the housing. This was happening before, but I reformed the hook on the end and it held up O.K. since October but he brought it back yesterday with the same issue.

I reformed the hook again, and applied a little redneckery heat treat and have it working again. Looking on line I only find the entire spring/housing available, and at $50 + that piece costs almost as much as the short block I put in.

The IPL does not list the spring separately, does anyone know if in fact that spring can be purchased individually?

View attachment 482025

Thanks,

Mark

Are you pulling it over slowly? If you pull it over like a normal saw it does that. It's supposed to be wound up slowly until it releases (quickly).

 

[heimannm]

I do understand how the ez start is supposed to be operated, and I have explained and demonstrated it to the owner as well.

The saw has some tendency to flood pretty easily, which I believe was responsible for the bent connecting rod in the first place due to hydro-locking. I've shown him how to use the choke to latch it in the high idle position then switch the choke off before pulling it over. I did go through the carburetor when I replaced the short block to insure the metering lever was set correctly and that the carburetor would hold pressure.

Mark

 

[EFSM]

I do understand how the ez start is supposed to be operated, and I have explained and demonstrated it to the owner as well.

The saw has some tendency to flood pretty easily, which I believe was responsible for the bent connecting rod in the first place due to hydro-locking. I've shown him how to use the choke to latch it in the high idle position then switch the choke off before pulling it over. I did go through the carburetor when I replaced the short block to insure the metering lever was set correctly and that the carburetor would hold pressure.

Mark

I worked on a Stihl trimmer (fs45 or similar) that had done the same thing of bending the rod, although I don’t think that had any flooding issues. My only question is why isn’t this happening all the time? Those stamped rods are so weak it’s crazy to think that they actually work most of the time. And then Stihl peens them a little so it looks like they tried.

 

[EFSM]

I think this is the first time I ever saw 2 broken clutch shoe retainers (311 model). The clutch drum had come partway off or loose, not quite sure, as I wasn’t the first to work on it.



What a puny bearing for a drum this size!

 

[singinwoodwackr]

Thank you Chris.

Anything here of use?

 

[singinwoodwackr]

361 with .325 update.
I found a LG sp 9t so thew it on and made an 82link chain. Interesting thing...the chain binds on the backing plate, top and bottom. Not too badly so I just ran it for a bit and it loosened up due to self clearancing
I did some 'adjustment " to the plate and that helped.
Man, this thing really rips!. 18" maple...blew right through it.

 

[EFSM]

Can you not get an 81dl chain on with the large sprocket? It seems that the tail of the bar is too short top to bottom and is causing your issues.

 

[singinwoodwackr]

Can you not get an 81dl chain on with the large sprocket? It seems that the tail of the bar is too short top to bottom and is causing your issues.

Nope. And 83dl fit but it left very little adjustment room so tried 82. That fit just right. 81 would probably work with an 8 but I don't have one to try.

 

[Sloughfoot]

Looks to be 10mm

Pardon Our Interruption...

 

[Gary Courtney]

Anyone have an aluminum case bolt snap?

 

[bogieboy]

I think this is the first time I ever saw 2 broken clutch shoe retainers (311 model). The clutch drum had come partway off or loose, not quite sure, as I wasn’t the first to work on it.

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What a puny bearing for a drum this size!View attachment 482620

Not for nothing, but if you are operating the saw correctly, 99% of the time that bearing is not turning.... so it doesnt need to have a high rpm rating or super sturdy tolerances.

 

[singinwoodwackr]

Anyone have an aluminum case bolt snap?
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Not...yet