The forestry and logging pictures thread

[ajschainsaws]

Nice sawlogs good size for us

 

[Loony661]

 

[davidwyby]

@Loony661 want a job?

@Squareground3691 you should see our shop…pretty old school. Another local shop has big fancy new CNC stuff but no way to cut big keyways. We key stuff for them on our machine made in 1898.

We are looking at more CNC because we can’t get machinists.

 

[Loony661]

@Loony661 want a job?

@Squareground3691 you should see our shop…pretty old school. Another local shop has big fancy new CNC stuff but no way to cut big keyways. We key stuff for them on our machine made in 1898.

We are looking at more CNC because we can’t get machinists.

I appreciate the offer, but I must decline - I start sweating just looking at your pictures lol

 

[Squareground3691]

@Loony661 want a job?

@Squareground3691 you should see our shop…pretty old school. Another local shop has big fancy new CNC stuff but no way to cut big keyways. We key stuff for them on our machine made in 1898.

We are looking at more CNC because we can’t get machinists.

It’s pretty sad , the kids coming out of trade school these days , have no motivation to learn , and can’t do basic things , and simple math that they should of learned about in trade school , I’ve had to let so many apprentices go because of those reasons.

 

[JimBear]

simple math

What’s this simple math you speak of ???

 

[Squareground3691]

What’s this simple math you speak of ???

The decimal system , simple trigonometry , reading a micrometer correctly, and other things that should have been taught in trade school .

 

[JugHead27]

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Still workin that nice piece of land I see. All hardwoods you’re getting out of er?

 

[JugHead27]

It’s pretty sad , the kids coming out of trade school these days , have no motivation to learn , and can’t do basic things , and simple math that they should of learned about in trade school , I’ve had to let so many apprentices go because of those reasons.

They don’t appreciate when a knowledgable person takes time to explain and teach them stuff, don’t understand the value of knowledge or hard work. You’ll learn much more on the job from higher up coworkers than you’ll ever learn in school. These days they go to college and treat it as extended highschool for fooling around and partying.

 

[Squareground3691]

They don’t appreciate when a knowledgable person takes time to explain and teach them stuff, don’t understand the value of knowledge or hard work. You’ll learn much more on the job from higher up coworkers than you’ll ever learn in school. These days they go to college and treat it as extended highschool for fooling around and partying.

Exactly!!

 

[JimBear]

The decimal system , simple trigonometry , reading a micrometer correctly, and other things that should have been taught in trade school .

I had went from building windows with .06”tolerances to working in a machine shop with tolerances of less than .001”, it was an eye opening experience for me, not only in the tight spec but about real world applications of trigonometry.

Don’t you just crank the mic tighter to get it to read what you want…

The decimal system is pretty straight forward. I occasionally struggled with trig in high school but after using it regularly in the shop I started to grasp it.

Unfortunately my former employer didn’t really promote a desire to learn or encourage it. He had a “just do it this way & don’t ask for reasons “ attitude. He wanted button pushers.

I wrote my first program using the programming manual for a Bridgeport VMC, the boss looked it over then rounded up all the programming manuals & locked them in his desk. Program was accurate, my parts were in spec, two other machinist looked over my parts/program & applauded my effort, then took the time to explain why they programmed the way they did, what commands they used & why & they had to be in certain order.

Then the a-holes would delete my programs & tell me to write them again… So I could learn & stuff…

They liked trying give their knowledge to others, the boss not so much.

 

[Loony661]

Still workin that nice piece of land I see. All hardwoods you’re getting out of er?

Yessir. Mostly White Oak, with some Red Oak and a few Walnut being harvested now as well. Also harvesting dead Ash if it is large enough to make a log, and not cracked yet.

 

[Squareground3691]

I had went from building windows with .06”tolerances to working in a machine shop with tolerances of less than .001”, it was an eye opening experience for me, not only in the tight spec but about real world applications of trigonometry.

Don’t you just crank the mic tighter to get it to read what you want…

The decimal system is pretty straight forward. I occasionally struggled with trig in high school but after using it regularly in the shop I started to grasp it.

Unfortunately my former employer didn’t really promote a desire to learn or encourage it. He had a “just do it this way & don’t ask for reasons “ attitude. He wanted button pushers.

I wrote my first program using the programming manual for a Bridgeport VMC, the boss looked it over then rounded up all the programming manuals & locked them in his desk. Program was accurate, my parts were in spec, two other machinist looked over my parts/program & applauded my effort, then took the time to explain why they programmed the way they did, what commands they used & why & they had to be in certain order.

Then the a-holes would delete my programs & tell me to write them again… So I could learn & stuff…

They liked trying give their knowledge to others, the boss not so much.

When a kid comes out of trade school and can’t discriminate between.005 and .0005 we have a issue , then they tell you after explaining it 5 times to them , what did your teacher show you , they just shrug their shoulders.

 

[Loony661]

When a kid comes out of trade school and can’t discriminate between.005 and .0005 we have a issue , then they tell you after explaining it 5 times to them , what did your teacher show you , they just shrug their shoulders.

What a waste of tuition.

 

[Squareground3691]

What a waste of tuition.

I think some teachers lack practical experience, in the actual field of studies , rather than what’s in a text book.

 

[JimBear]

When a kid comes out of trade school and can’t discriminate between.005 and .0005 we have a issue , then they tell you after explaining it 5 times to them , what did your teacher show you , they just shrug their shoulders.

Yep, most folks don’t think that’s much of a difference but in the machining world it’s a lot.

I used to try to show high school kids & family by using a mic on different types of paper to try and help them understand.

I feel pretty good about the new owner of the machine shop here locally, he was a high school student that worked part time cleaning, swapping parts on production machines & packing parts for shipping. He would come back in the summers/Christmas break to work after he left for college. He was always grilling me with questions.

I was his supervisor during his time there, he still talks about things I taught him. He is always asking me to come out & work for him. It’s an intriguing offer but I have since sold all my tools & would probably pass out if looked at machinist tool pricing now. I thought they were hoehouse prices 15-20 years ago.

 

[Squareground3691]

Yep, most folks don’t think that’s much of a difference but in the machining world it’s a lot.

I used to try to show high school kids & family by using a mic on different types of paper to try and help them understand.

I feel pretty good about the new owner of the machine shop here locally, he was a high school student that worked part time cleaning, swapping parts on production machines & packing parts for shipping. He would come back in the summers/Christmas break to work after he left for college. He was always grilling me with questions.

I was his supervisor during his time there, he still talks about things I taught him. He is always asking me to come out & work for him. It’s an intriguing offer but I have since sold all my tools & would probably pass out if looked at machinist tool pricing now. I thought they were hoehouse prices 15-20 years ago.

Nothing is better taught, than hands on practical experience, Nothing!!

 

[Loony661]

Nothing is better taught, than hands on practical experience, Nothing!!

An old timer in the shop told me “Experience is knowing what you can and can’t get away with. And how to cover up your mistakes.”

 

[JugHead27]

Yep, most folks don’t think that’s much of a difference but in the machining world it’s a lot.

I used to try to show high school kids & family by using a mic on different types of paper to try and help them understand.

I feel pretty good about the new owner of the machine shop here locally, he was a high school student that worked part time cleaning, swapping parts on production machines & packing parts for shipping. He would come back in the summers/Christmas break to work after he left for college. He was always grilling me with questions.

I was his supervisor during his time there, he still talks about things I taught him. He is always asking me to come out & work for him. It’s an intriguing offer but I have since sold all my tools & would probably pass out if looked at machinist tool pricing now. I thought they were hoehouse prices 15-20 years ago.

That’s how I learned. I started off as a know nothing kid sweeping the shop floor and being the muscle for heavy stuff, a year into it I had learned how to weld, got structural flat hori, verticals and overhead welding tickets, then learned manual lathe and mill. Never went to school for it, I paid my dues, respected the people higher up than me, they appreciated that and rewarded me with great knowledge. By the end of my time at that shop I was the on the road guy for welding jobs(stick weld), mostly iron work but some other stuff. Working in that shop transitioned me from kid to man

 

[hoskvarna]

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