HELP! So where do we go from here folks?

[bwalker]

My take on forum direction is this. There ain’t one, it’s several given the members that currently exist here. On one hand you have the OG OPE guys that want it to go back to like it was before 2020, which were the good old days. Started by many Gen Xers who don’t have feelings or care about hurting feelings or calling people gay or homo, or anything that generally pisses off anyone who has feelings. The newer members want no part of that for whatever reason, and there in lies the problem. The newer members want the tech/info without all that brought it to the forum, that doesn’t make it right or wrong it just is what it is. However that is who build the site and all its history, like it or not, because without all that there is no OPE.

On the other hand it can’t go back to what it was because many of the productive members who were booted from here by Randy or the ones that just got sick of the double standard Randy imposed on the forum ain’t never coming back. Imagine making Stump a moderator and then him moderating the dynamic douche oh’s of Mustang Mike and RI Chevy only to be smacked down for doing so. People get put off by it and leave, next thing you know Randy gets fed up with both and then ends up banning RI Chevy. Now you lost productive members because Randy picked winners and losers on the forum. That happened over and over again to the point where we are where we’re at now with very few build threads, very few interesting conceptual projects like Eggshooters oil testing, new GTG’s being created etc. I don’t bring all this up to dump on Randy, he dumped all over himself. I state it simply as the way not to moderate a forum as it will kill one quicker than anything will. The single biggest thing for this site to overcome is the 2 factions that remain on the site, +Randy and -Randy. It doesn’t matter which camp you are in, but this ain’t ever going away here, or at least anytime soon.

Lastly, there is only so many times you can repeat the same thing. I could post a 60cc class 2 series Husky build, but why? There is like 150 of them on the internet in print and tube-U videos. Porters who do it for a living got tired of getting ripped off, then the hacks started showing up which was an entirely different and unnecessary tangent the forum took. Myself, I went to a GTG, found out I like going to them, got to run different porters saws, figured out which model’s and porters I liked and shelled out my money. Can’t buy all the equipment and tooling to port 3-4 saws for what you can pay a professional to do it for you, which is what many new members think they are going to get to see here.

Myself, I’m of the minimal moderation theory, while not popular, there is as others have mentioned a certain amount of self moderation required to belong to any site. If you can’t handle the results of an election or the direction society or the world in general flows a saw forum certainly isn’t suitable for you.

With all that stated above, my take is that this site will never be able to be what it once was, too much has happened and too many camps of thought or allegiances to overcome. A clean break and a fresh start would be the most logical choice but also the most painful and time consuming. The new site admin here has a tough road ahead, but given the right direction and input it could be doable and enjoyable for all.

The best forums always have minimal moderation.

 

[bwalker]

Pot or kettle Ben?

Believe me when I say that nothing on this site has ever gotten me too excited.
You throwing your weight around as a moderator did stink of beta male, but whatever.

 

[mrxlh]

I’m feeling more and more like I am sticking my nose where it doesn’t belong. I’m going to stay on the sidelines the rest of the way.

Duane, now ain’t the time to sit on the sidelines brother… Say what you have to say, it’s the only way this site can move forward.

 

[Woodpecker]

Believe me when I say that nothing on this site has ever gotten me too excited.
You throwing your weight around as a moderator did stink of beta male, but whatever.

Nah I’m more of a sigma but whatever

 

[jmester]

You know what I find funny? That a grown azz man can get his panties in a bunch over what he reads on an internet forum.

I agree. Was more so after the double standard.

 

[mrxlh]

And partially because of your heavy handed moderation.

Ben, your dumb ass has run as many or more productive members off here than Gay Island Chevy did… In fact you might hold the title, but Randy kept bringing your punk ass back as part of his little soap opera/make believe/never land side show.

 

[bwalker]

Ben, your dumb ass has run as many or more productive members off here than Gay Island Chevy did… In fact you might hold the title, but Randy kept bringing your punk ass back as part of his little soap opera/make believe/never land side show.

Another hurt feelers report beta.

 

[Jusgunn3]

I bought a saw from Dan and it was a smooth transaction, he was willing to answer all my newb questions and the saw came as advertised. @sawmikaze for president!

 

[Loony661]

I dont engage in such talk, but it also doesn't work me up. You just cant take this internet stuff to seriously.

I don’t.

 

[farminkarman]

Ben, your dumb ass has run as many or more productive members off here than Gay Island Chevy did… In fact you might hold the title, but Randy kept bringing your punk ass back as part of his little soap opera/make believe/never land side show.

I don’t have many people on ignore…but

 

[farminkarman]

I bought a saw from Dan and it was a smooth transaction, he was willing to answer all my newb questions and the saw came as advertised. @sawmikaze for president!

How about @dall & @sawmikaze as joint admins?

 

[sawmikaze]

There was only 1 person who couldn’t handle politics if they didn’t align with his.

Did you ever notice the people that call everyone fascists have the most fascist personality traits ?

I always found that interesting.

 

[bwalker]

One of the times ai got banned was for suggesting JMS was full of crap. We all know how that worked out.

 

[jacob j.]

I bought a saw from Dan and it was a smooth transaction, he was willing to answer all my newb questions and the saw came as advertised. @sawmikaze for president!

I've bought stuff from many, many members here and have had almost no problems. I've met probably over fifty members of the forum in person and I pretty much found each one of them to be interesting and engaged.

How about @dall & @sawmikaze as joint admins?

Only if they have get each other's permission before banning someone...

 

[sawmikaze]

I've bought stuff from many, many members here and have had almost no problems. I've met probably over fifty members of the forum in person and I pretty much found each one of them to be interesting and engaged.



Only if they have get each other's permission before banning someone...

I have impeccable problem solving skills.

It's called quit being a pussy and figure it out. Works every time.

 

[bwalker]

Did you ever notice the people that call everyone fascists have the most fascist personality traits ?

I always found that interesting.

That makes two of us. The fascist label is way over used and way misunderstood.
Most people cant even define what a fascist is.

 

[bwalker]

I have impeccable problem solving skills.

It's called quit being a pussy and figure it out. Works every time.

Pay via PayPal goods and services and use your credit card. If the goods dont arrive, dispute the charges and get your money back. Its that simple.

 

[sawmikaze]

One of the times ai got banned was for suggesting JMS was full of crap. We all know how that worked out.

I just went right at him. I didn't even whine to anyone first after he smoked me. I took a ton of heat for that from his girlfriends.

Oh well. Lies have speed and truth has endurance.

 

[mrxlh]

Another hurt feelers report beta.

That would be you Ben, how many times did you beg Randy to let you back on here?

 

[sawmikaze]

Don’t threaten me with a good time cream puff.

I wish you'd talk to.me like that...

Sorry, Andy.