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I'd probably stick witha slow chain speed in really hard stuff, but I haven't experimented much with extremely hard woods.
Same here!

I gave higher gearing a try and it is counterproductive bucking Turkey Oak logs.
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I'd probably stick witha slow chain speed in really hard stuff, but I haven't experimented much with extremely hard woods.
Yes, .404 stays sharp longer but you're stuck with higher chain speed and load. The best I've found for these logs is 395 and 3120 36''/42" .404. bar longer than log dia so not buried. I have some larger logs yet to work on. I'm guessing 36", maybe down to 32" since it will be buried.
 
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To fray or not to fray, that is the question! 🤔

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At 3.0mm/.118" this line is fairly thick for a homeowner weedeater.
It is the first nylon line I have seen fray this much.
I remember someone telling me "good lines fray, bad ones chip" - but this much fraying sure robbed a bunch of power & rpm out of my weedeater (2-stroke, 1.5kW/2.0hp).

I think I am more fond of nylon line that chips its ends.

Although, this line did not break once no matter what I'd hit with it.
 
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I didn't know that either.
Cool, right?!

Both of these are magnetic (not nearly as strong as steel though!), yet they are reddish/yellow and soft under a flat file.
Didn't know what scrap bucket to sort them into, Googled it yesterday and was fairly surprised.

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To fray or not to fray, that is the question! 🤔

At 3.0mm/.118" this line is fairly thick for a homeowner weedeater.
It is the first nylon line I have seen fray this much.
I remember someone telling me "good lines fray, bad ones chip" - but this much fraying sure robbed a bunch of power & rpm out of my weedeater (2-stroke, 1.5kW/2.0hp).

I think I am more fond of nylon line that chips its ends.

Although, this line did not break once no matter what I'd hit with it.

Try soaking it in water for 24 hours before using it and see if that helps it last a little longer.
^ this exactly ^

If you see this image on your trimmer line packaging it needs to be soaked ahead of time or just kept in water. A tight sealed bucket/container with distilled water and a splash of distilled or denatured alcohol will keep all summer with out going rank if kept in the garage/out of the sun and heat. The string will last a lot longer and not fray or snap off. The landscaping crews in my industrial park usually have a 5gal with a spool in it on their trucks.

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Try soaking it in water for 24 hours before using it and see if that helps it last a little longer.
I tried that for a year, had a dedicated bucket with lid in my shop, various nylon lines cut to length.

It didn't seem to help anything.
The lines actually tended to snap more often right at the line head eyes.
I repurposed the bucket, use lines dry off the spool and am more happy with the behaviour of it.

I don't care about a couple dozen yard worth of line spent.
The line is a disposable unit in the yard maintenance equation.
I have dirt cheap line, I have very expensive line, round, square, square-twisted, star shaped, 2.4mm up to 3.0mm gauge, soft & hard.
I was merely surprised by the line in question fraying that much.

Yesterday I saw sharp cornered square line at one of my local hardware stores, 3.3mm gauge.
I'll have to get a couple spools and ad them to my stash.
 
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