MS 461 piston exploded

[mdavlee]

Really?

I haven't opened mine up yet

The strato part is long transfers that feed on the exhaust side back towards the intake. The 576 and 562 are like that but they have fresh air ports as well.

 

[Adirondackstihl]

Anybody know if the Kolbenschmidt piston is the same part number as any earlier pistons?

Same PN#

But I wasn't specifically referring to the 461

 

[panteliss]

They kept his whole saw and refused to return it?!!!!!!!
Here comes a B-52 bomber ready to drop a full load of "F-bombs".

You really believe that if the stihl find that is a factory problem dont give another saw to the customer ??
You really believe that the stihl will play the brand name for a chainsaw ??

The stihl take the risk and make a recall of the flagship 661 if you remember this recall maybe cost to them thousands or millions of money plus the diferent peoples opinions for the name stihl

Ya, this seems to be a problem with them. Had a friend that purchases a new saw and 6 months later it did something like this....but not this bad.
It was adjusted at the dealer new and never touched. He took it back to the dealer after the explosion. They disassembled and said it musta been a faulty piston. Stihl wanted to see it so it was sent to them.... Dealer was going to cover it at that time.
Stihls report was saw was over reed 2% of the time and they said they wouldn't warranty it. Dealer backed out than too. Was was never returned and no reimbursement of any kind..he got the ol double wammy.....no replacement as promised by dealer and Stihl USA kept his saw.....
He now run Husqvarna....don't blame him.

The stihl dont say if is a factory problem or if is a operator problem ??
Its a little dificult for me to believe that if the stihl find that is a factory problem dont replace the saw

 

[panteliss]

They kept his whole saw and refused to return it?!!!!!!!
Here comes a B-52 bomber ready to drop a full load of "F-bombs".

If you are the stihl and someone sent a saw with problem and you find that is your problem and not operator you dont replace the saw to the customer???

 

[panteliss]

The 461 is definitely limited, that said...a dull chain and poor technique could cause saw to be bouncing off the limiter all the time.

Not sayin that's the case but a possibility. Pretty *s-wordty what they did to him

What they do to him ?? they find that is not a factory problem and dont replace the saw what is the mysterius here ??

 

[Chainsaw Jim]

If you are the stihl and someone sent a saw with problem and you find that is your problem and not operator you dont replace the saw to the customer???

The whole west side thing suddenly comes to mind. And this isn't the first time.
The American dealer wants to help but German corporate says *f-word you. I've heard it with my own ears in person.

 

[Deets066]

What they do to him ?? they find that is not a factory problem and dont replace the saw what is the mysterius here ??

They kept his $1000 new saw and gave no credit or replacement

 

[stihl saws]

They kept his $1000 new saw and gave no credit or replacement

I'm sorry, but this seems unlikely. Who here would let that happen? Exactly.

 

[Adirondackstihl]

They kept his $1000 new saw and gave no credit or replacement

You'd think the dealer would go to bat for him.
No?

 

[stihl saws]

I have no idea the cause just the results

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Does it look to anyone else like the pin has been really hot? Lack of oil maybe? Too lean a ratio? Just tossing it out there.

 

[stihl saws]

The first YFZ 450's had similar wrist pin failures due to lack of oil. I know that's a four stroke, but the carnage looks identical.

 

[Deets066]

You'd think the dealer would go to bat for him.
No?

You would think

 

[Deets066]

I'm sorry, but this seems unlikely. Who here would let that happen? Exactly.

Sure as hell wouldn't fly with me

 

[Lone Wolf]

There's been some failures with the cylinder coming apart on the 461 as well, similar to the 390XP where the base mounting ears are breaking off. I wonder if it is metallurgy related?

That was my thought.

 

[panteliss]

They kept his $1000 new saw and gave no credit or replacement

this is what the owner say

i will buy you a porche gift do you believe me ??

If you sent your saw to Mastermind for ported or repair and he dont give you back is this illegal yes or not ?

now we must believe that the stihl make something illegal ( keep a saw from the owner without any kind of explainations )


Now leave me i must start my high compression ms 170

 

[junkman]

wasn't the flange on the intake put there to cool the pin bearing and piston ?

 

[Deets066]

Does it look to anyone else like the pin has been really hot? Lack of oil maybe? Too lean a ratio? Just tossing it out there.

I've seen a few pins look like that, I don't think much of it

 

[panteliss]

I've seen a few pins look like that, I don't think much of it

Maybe its a casting failure , in most cases they see them with x-ray machines but sometimes the devil put his nose

 

[jacob j.]

You'd think the dealer would go to bat for him.
No?

We had to go to bat for a customer when the four-mix trimmers first came out. We had an early failure and Stihl Northwest wanted to look at the machine. We sent it up that way and they claimed it was operator error/abuse that caused the failure. They kept the machine and we ended up having to replace the customer's machine on our dime. It took us over a year of nagging from us to get reimbursed.

 

[Stihl working Hard]

I'm sorry, but this seems unlikely. Who here would let that happen? Exactly.

I would be definitely going after Stihl on that I wouldn't take that lying down what right do they have to keep the saw without any form of compensation at all