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Huh??? When it's super thick, right after clearcutting or whatever, that's when there's the most food per acre. After it turns into pole woods, not so much.

I've talked to Dr. Alt, and I agree with him. The biggest problem in PA is that people refused to shoot does, and they overpopulated, and when they overpopulated, they ate all the acorns, saplings and small trees down to nothing. Now those areas are choked with ferns, so even if the acorns don't get all ate up, there's no light for them to grow. As a result, those old forests lost their "carrying capacity" to support deer, and they won't regenerate, and they'll basically get old and die, and then have to start over from scratch. In other words, the reason deer populations crashed in many parts of PA is because they were allowed to get way too overpopulated, and as a result, the over-abundant deer ate themselves out of house and home, and permanently changed the habitat for the worse, so that now, even if you imported new deer into those fern covered forests, there wouldn't be a fu$king thing for them to eat. Deer don't eat ferns. And there ain't much nutrition gnawing lichens off boulders.

This has happened in PA several times since the late 1800s. Deer were so abundant around Philly back in the early 1900s that the Game Commission had to hire sharpshooters to kill them off. The only way to tame the boom-and-bust cycle is to prevent the deer from overpopulating, and the only way to do that is to kill does. That's what we do here in VA. Our season is seven weeks, and we can take four deer but no more than one buck. And we have very healthy populations of deer.

Agreed. When Dr. Alt was preaching the gospel of antler restrictions and killing more does, we started doing it for ourselves, and the results were impressive. Now, our neighbors have all stopped shooting does because 'it's not fair', so we are back to being way overpopulated, and the bucks aren't what they were.

I have no problem dropping the hammer on a nice fat doe, so I do my part and fill every tag the state will give me, but that's usually only 2. It's not enough.
 

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We are spoiled here bucks are what we feed the dogs they tast like crap anyway like bulls .
A young Spiky or doe is the only thing that go's in my freezer. ....
 
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If any of you ever make it Charleston, go visit the Angel Oak. Pics don’t do it justice. There are also some massive live oaks in McClellenville town square just north of Charleston
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Took the fam there while on vaca. That’s a massive sob. Weird how they have props on the limbs to keep them from cracking.
Also took in the redwoods at Muir Woods. Wow...
 

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You want to talk about a raunchy buck,the one I have on the wall .Big boy, Colorado 13 point high timber silver buck .Diet of sage brush and spruce needles and had been tracked and pushed hard over about three hours by another hunter I didn't see .He told me in that time period he had mounted three does .Adrenoline and testosterine makes for some nasty tasting meat .The only way to eat it was drown it with onions and tomatoes and roast it a long time in the oven .
On the other hand the large Ohio white tail .Corn and soy beans ,not bad .My ladys husband and my buddy RIP had taken one of the largest ever and is in the record books .It was larger than my muley .
 

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Land of big hardwoods? that would be Australia.
The tree the folk are climbing looks like one of the sentinel trees near Albany, SW Oz.
They have a nice way to put "nervous" people off climbing up the tree. The "rungs" are made from re-bar, replacing the old wooden pegs and the first three or four rungs are made out of much lighter gauge re-bar with the effect that there is a fair amount of flex when you step on them. There is a bit more meat to the rest of the steps/rungs. I smiled at folk stepping on the first few rungs and deciding (audibly) that the climb wasn't for them....
 
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