Heavy Hitters

[Hoser]

I remember a savage rep saying the cost to produce to the same quality of an original 99 there’s no way they’d bring them back.
But up here ruger-marlins and Miroku winchesters have no issue selling for $1700+ brand new so how much would a 99 really be? Hell some BLR’s are over 2k new now

 

[FergusonTO35]

Father used a 351 Win self-loader with 180gr loads for many years which accounted for many a deer over MN, Wi and Mi tight close shooting northwoods which is one of the things that attracted me to the Legend, Older brother inherited Dads 351 which ammo is hard to find now days. Brother took his largest Wi whitetail with a 350 Legend which I built for him dropped in woods road it was crossing when shot using 170gr load.

I have taken multiple bucks as well as does in both Mn and Wi with my own Legend with 170gr loads all well under 100yds.

My only guess is that the deer do not know that 170gr is to light for caliber. not something I would be tempted to try on moose.

the Buckhammer does look interesting just because who doesn't like trying something new oh yeah and a 6.5

Yes, the point I was making is that the Legend would almost certainly be a big game capable round with a heavier, tougher bullet. The .35 Remington and .358 Winchester certainly are. What sux is, the Legend has a .355/9mm groove diameter meaning .358 rifle bullets are unlikely to even chamber. The 170 grain Barnes TSX is probably the most capable big game bullet for the Legend currently. The Buckhammer SAAMI spec calls for a .357 groove diameter, which opens up numerous options for bullets.

 

[Mad Professor]

NEF Handi Rifle with 44/45cal saboted bullets.

Lyman? great plains Hawken style 58cal round ball only.

.36cal percussion something or other for squirrel.

Good guess a Lyman Plains rifle (not Great Plains) 1-48 barrel. Was a rare find as came with a .62/20 ga smooth barrel too.

Yes I found the 525gr GP bullet was overkill for deer.

I chased some deer into a swamp and had a hard time locating them. After some roundy rounds in the swamp I saw them staring at me pretty close. I took the one that had the clearest shot. A small tree fell over behind the deer and they all scattered. WTF did I miss? Got to where the deer was standing and hair all over the snow. Pass through and killed tree too! After a couple bounds there was blood all over the snow in the deer's tracks on both sides, found the deer piled up just out of sight.

I've also got a bunch of TCs in 50 and 54, some have 1-66 TC RB barrels others fast twist 1-28 GM barrels. I can mix and match the barrels.

 

[Mad Professor]

Father used a 351 Win self-loader with 180gr loads for many years which accounted for many a deer over MN, Wi and Mi tight close shooting northwoods which is one of the things that attracted me to the Legend, Older brother inherited Dads 351 which ammo is hard to find now days. Brother took his largest Wi whitetail with a 350 Legend which I built for him dropped in woods road it was crossing when shot using 170gr load.

I have taken multiple bucks as well as does in both Mn and Wi with my own Legend with 170gr loads all well under 100yds.

My only guess is that the deer do not know that 170gr is to light for caliber. not something I would be tempted to try on moose.

the Buckhammer does look interesting just because who doesn't like trying something new oh yeah and a 6.5

It's too bad ammo/bullets/dies are hard to find for the 351 Win SL. It's about = to a 357 Mag. I think you can form cases for them from 357?

 

[Lnk]

I remember a savage rep saying the cost to produce to the same quality of an original 99 there’s no way they’d bring them back.
But up here ruger-marlins and Miroku winchesters have no issue selling for $1700+ brand new so how much would a 99 really be? Hell some BLR’s are over 2k new now

You would think with machine manufacturing being better and cheaper, that someone would make a high quality lever rifle at a decent price. Seems almost anyone could own a decent lever gun back in the day. I might be misremembering though.

 

[Hoser]

I’d be all for it but I don’t see it happening without it being just cheaper/better to buy a nice used model.
When I bought my used 94 it was $450 a new 336 remlin was $700. Now that same pre-64 is probably 850 and a new marlin $1500.
It’s all relative to the times

 

[Onan18]

I’d be all for it but I don’t see it happening without it being just cheaper/better to buy a nice used model.
When I bought my used 94 it was $450 a new 336 remlin was $700. Now that same pre-64 is probably 850 and a new marlin $1500.
It’s all relative to the times

Haven't seen a Savage 99 for sale around here (which is rarely at best) for less than $1,200.00 in YEARS.

I would pay $1,500.00 for a new one before I would pay $1,200.00 for a used one that has who knows what wrong with it.

Some of the later 99s had a detachable box magazine, personally I think it would be cool (and should be a significant cost savings as well as simplify the manufacturing process) if a new 99 could interchange magazines with the Axis.

 

[Hoser]

Here for some reason they’re cheap (relative to the market). I turned a guy onto a 250-3000 in very good shape for $850.
My buddy just bought and sold a 99 in 308 with the detachable mags (I think it’s called a 99F) for $650.
The only ones I see routinely over $1000 are takedowns.
But granted I’m no where near as active in the firearms market as I was so maybe 2 hours from me they’re worth a boatload.
With how restrictive the gun laws have gotten here, lever actions have gotten very popular so maybe savage will see the light.

 

[IffykidMn]

Good guess a Lyman Plains rifle (not Great Plains) 1-48 barrel. Was a rare find as came with a .62/20 ga smooth barrel too.

Yes I found the 525gr GP bullet was overkill for deer.

I chased some deer into a swamp and had a hard time locating them. After some roundy rounds in the swamp I saw them staring at me pretty close. I took the one that had the clearest shot. A small tree fell over behind the deer and they all scattered. WTF did I miss? Got to where the deer was standing and hair all over the snow. Pass through and killed tree too! After a couple bounds there was blood all over the snow in the deer's tracks on both sides, found the deer piled up just out of sight.

I've also got a bunch of TCs in 50 and 54, some have 1-66 TC RB barrels others fast twist 1-28 GM barrels. I can mix and match the barrels.

Been a while since I looked at Lyman I think it is 1-78 maybe?

 

[IffykidMn]

The Buckhammer has me intrigued because it was designed to be chambered in a lever gun. In the age of AR platforms being a dime a dozen I just think it's pretty cool to see some real R&D going into a new cartridge for an "archaic" design.

Kudos to Henry Rifles for keeping the fire going during the darkest hour (both Remington and Savage quit making lever guns, Marlin went out of business, and Winchester all but ceased production for a while).

Winchester is back in the game and Ruger is slowly but surely breathing new life into Marlin. The new production 1894s are among the best ever made and the new 336 Classic is simply a work of art (although I am eagerly awaiting the return of the 1895 CB). And Savage is stepping back in as well with a new .22 offering (would love to se the 99 make a return but not sure it ever will).

Brother inherited the 351 Win and an old Marlin lever action 32 rim fire and a Savage 99 in .300 Savage along with various Ruger revolvers one of which is a single six chambered in 30carbine.

I inherited his Marlin 32Special matching 22rimfire and a Marlin 35Remington and a few Ruger revolvers .22 buntline and single in 41 mag.

I still have my first deer rifle from dad 336 30/30 my first purchased Marlin in 444 Marlin and 1895 cb 38/55 and a couple of 1894s in 38 special and .357 when I first got into CAS before switching to Taylor 1873 replicas.

Our group still does lot of drives during deer season and loading unloading the levers is a pain thus AR15 in 350 Legend.