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I’m a Sig fan and have 5 of them, but the 320/ M17/ M18 are garbage. I would never carry one. Way too many cases where they have gone off in a holster.

This guy explains some of the report:

I read the report pretty thoroughly. It looks like a combination of tolerance stacking, ordinary wear, minor dimensional differences of mass produced parts, and the usual jostling around of a police pistol result in unintended discharges. The report says that the gun in question was an M18 but the gun in the photos is a P320 with X series grip and trigger and no manual safety. I wonder how the actual M17 or M18 with manual safety would have fared, and if the military has experienced this problem.
 

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I read the report pretty thoroughly. It looks like a combination of tolerance stacking, ordinary wear, minor dimensional differences of mass produced parts, and the usual jostling around of a police pistol result in unintended discharges. The report says that the gun in question was an M18 but the gun in the photos is a P320 with X series grip and trigger and no manual safety. I wonder how the actual M17 or M18 with manual safety would have fared, and if the military has experienced this problem.
The military has had issues.
 

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Caliber? Action? Barrel? Can?
Try not to judge too harshly, this is a project that was started before semi-custom actions like the Solas and Zermatt/Bighorn were easily available. And, it was supposed to be a "budget" build... If you add up prices, please don't tell my wife. 😬

Old-school Savage 110 (pre-accutrigger) action, trued but not timed.
Nat Lambert bolt lift kit
Glades "tactical" bolt handle
Sharpshooter trigger (by far best available for a Savage, but NLA) set to 1.5lb
X-Caliber light varmint barrel, 26", 1:8 twist 5r, 7mm Rem Mag
Choate Super Sniper stock (because it is a LA, Savage, and wrong-handed, options are VERY limited)
Harris bipod
Murphy Precision 20moa base
Vortex Precision rings
Athlon Ares ETR UHD 4.5-30x56
Aadland caps
Liberty Precision Machine Mach S
Rearden SPB mount

If I was to do it all over again, I would definitely use a Zermatt action. Just the availability of options for the R700 footprint alone is huge.
 

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I like this stuff I shot about 500 rounds
It's hotter than most 9mm I have.
It's been accurate and reliable no issues at all.
I was at local indoor range with a friend. He was shooting ammo inc in his 357 revolver. I heard a "thunk" instead of bang. I caught and stopped him before he tried another shot. The ammo inc had a squib. We cleared the bullet with an alyminum rod. He tried that ammo again a week later. There were no less than 3 squibs in that box of ammo. After the 3 squib, he gave the remainder of the box back to the lgs he had bought it at. They didn't seem the least bit surprised to hear that there were 3 squibs in the one box. I won't try shooting Ammo Inc anytime soon. That *s-word could've killed him.
 

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I was at local indoor range with a friend. He was shooting ammo inc in his 357 revolver. I heard a "thunk" instead of bang. I caught and stopped him before he tried another shot. The ammo inc had a squib. We cleared the bullet with an alyminum rod. He tried that ammo again a week later. There were no less than 3 squibs in that box of ammo. After the 3 squib, he gave the remainder of the box back to the lgs he had bought it at. They didn't seem the least bit surprised to hear that there were 3 squibs in the one box. I won't try shooting Ammo Inc anytime soon. That *s-word could've killed him.
Oh boy.
 

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I was at local indoor range with a friend. He was shooting ammo inc in his 357 revolver. I heard a "thunk" instead of bang. I caught and stopped him before he tried another shot. The ammo inc had a squib. We cleared the bullet with an alyminum rod. He tried that ammo again a week later. There were no less than 3 squibs in that box of ammo. After the 3 squib, he gave the remainder of the box back to the lgs he had bought it at. They didn't seem the least bit surprised to hear that there were 3 squibs in the one box. I won't try shooting Ammo Inc anytime soon. That *s-word could've killed him.
Noted.
 

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I was at local indoor range with a friend. He was shooting ammo inc in his 357 revolver. I heard a "thunk" instead of bang. I caught and stopped him before he tried another shot. The ammo inc had a squib. We cleared the bullet with an alyminum rod. He tried that ammo again a week later. There were no less than 3 squibs in that box of ammo. After the 3 squib, he gave the remainder of the box back to the lgs he had bought it at. They didn't seem the least bit surprised to hear that there were 3 squibs in the one box. I won't try shooting Ammo Inc anytime soon. That *s-word could've killed him.
I ran over 400 near 500 of the ammo inc 9mm 115gr jhp only
No other calibers if there was any issues I wouldn't have bought more
I bought that last batch 2 years ago hopefully they still have their *s-word together.
 

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Try not to judge too harshly, this is a project that was started before semi-custom actions like the Solas and Zermatt/Bighorn were easily available. And, it was supposed to be a "budget" build... If you add up prices, please don't tell my wife. 😬

Old-school Savage 110 (pre-accutrigger) action, trued but not timed.
Nat Lambert bolt lift kit
Glades "tactical" bolt handle
Sharpshooter trigger (by far best available for a Savage, but NLA) set to 1.5lb
X-Caliber light varmint barrel, 26", 1:8 twist 5r, 7mm Rem Mag
Choate Super Sniper stock (because it is a LA, Savage, and wrong-handed, options are VERY limited)
Harris bipod
Murphy Precision 20moa base
Vortex Precision rings
Athlon Ares ETR UHD 4.5-30x56
Aadland caps
Liberty Precision Machine Mach S
Rearden SPB mount

If I was to do it all over again, I would definitely use a Zermatt action. Just the availability of options for the R700 footprint alone is huge.

No judgement here, I'm sure it will out shoot anything I got!
 

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No judgement here, I'm sure it will out shoot anything I got!
It does okay for a hunting rifle. The best I've managed was 10 rounds into 7.5" at 1000yds, but 10-12" is more typical. It could probably do better if I could tighten up the nut on the buttstock.
 
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