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New Problem. Take a look at this load:
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(1) Assume all logs are 18' long. How many cubic feet of lumber is on board the sled?
(2) How many tons are the mules being expected to move?

Frankly, I don't see how it's passible that the mules could budge this. WDYT?
 

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New Problem. Take a look at this load:
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(1) Assume all logs are 18' long. How many cubic feet of lumber is on board the sled?
(2) How many tons are the mules being expected to move?

Frankly, I don't see how it's passible that the mules could budge this. WDYT?
Stuff slides easy on ice and snow. I imagine uphill probably would be difficult though...
 

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New Problem. Take a look at this load:
View attachment 261148
(1) Assume all logs are 18' long. How many cubic feet of lumber is on board the sled?
(2) How many tons are the mules being expected to move?

Frankly, I don't see how it's passible that the mules could budge this. WDYT?
They stack those up for photo ops. Those 2 horses could drag maybe 6 of those logs
 

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They stack those up for photo ops. Those 2 horses could drag maybe 6 of those logs.
Dang, I thought they were at least mules, not horses. Well, here are my WAG estimations:
Load volume = 1,8oo cu ft
Load weight = 45 tons.

I figure these logs would fill three to four flat-bed bunk trailers for an 18-wheeler to pull.
 

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Grandfather had a team of 8 mules farming in Arkansas. Told me he liked mules over horses and would never hurt themselves pulling like horses would. Used 2 or 4 at a time and rotated them, so he was only one getting worm out. Cotton farmers.
 

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Question (3) for the Pic in Post #66:
There were no cars or trucks with I.C. engines in 1893 and no cranes or picker trucks.

How did these men stack up all those logs on the sled that high?
IPhones technology gas engines fuel injected chainsaws etc.. tend to led us into a false sense that we are smarter than generations before us.

This is how they used to load logs before steam or gas engine's.
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I just wonder how they stop the load if they go down hill.
Could be they had a second team of horse/mules attached to the back, pulling uphill. Depending on the steepness, the longer/stronger team was pulling uphill to stop the slide. Safety ropes anchored to trees were likely employed as well on really steep slopes. If the sled ever broke loose, the party was over.
 

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Amazing what they could do with just man and beast power all that knowledge is lost.
If supermarkets closed tomorrow most of modern man would starve to death me included.
I look to the older generations for inspiration to make my life more self sufficient and not reliant on anyone or any thing it's not easy going against the flow.
 

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You might be right; but that's a lot of work for a photo op. They were smarter than that back then. Different story nowadays though...
That’s just what I’ve heard. I know from picking up logs around that size that they are about 1000 pounds each. That would make some of those sleighs 25 to 30,000 pounds. There have always been pulling horses in my family… Clydesdales and Belgians. 2 2500 pound belgian draft horses can hook onto a 5000 pound skid and pull it for 30-40’ in the dirt. I don’t see a couple riding-sized horses moving 25k, even in snow
 

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Grandpa used Shire horses that some say were just as strong or perhaps even stronger that Belgians. He used to tell me that the horsepower unit applied to motors was not nearly as strong as any of his Shires. It wasn't until 1937 that he put them both out to pasture. He replaced the Shire team with a '37 John Deere A. How could I ever forget this tractor?
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