ECHO Echo, Echo, Echo

[rburg]

Mr. Cullin's I started a conversation with you about the cs 500.

 

[Cut4fun]

3900 and PS 3/8LP chain got the call for this job.

After this it was onto the trusses cuts to make them smaller to lift.

 

[Cullins Service]

My money maker 360tView attachment 21152Yes the Lil orange thingView attachment 21153Cs510 piped fun Lil 49cc saw

Those small echos are money makers.
With the jobs I've done w/ my 330t I've paid for her may times over.

It's actually one of my most inexpensive pieces of equipment, but she brings in the most money.

 

[Cullins Service]

Mr. Cullin's I started a conversation with you about the cs 500.

I saw the post.
It's a bit pricey. $100.oo more than a new one + shipping would be another $50.00 - $100.00.
I'm sure she's worth it, but abit out of my reach.

 

[Cullins Service]

Mr. Cullin's I started a conversation with you about the cs 500.

I saw the post, but didn't see

Mr. Cullin's I started a conversation with you about the cs 500.

I've got a Husqvarna 450 Rancher and a husqvarna 14 in 240 x-torq I'm not happy w/. I'd like to sell them.

 

[JeffGu]

I must admit that my favorite Echo saw is the little CS-271T because these are just very nice running/cutting saws, always fire right up... and they just go and go and go. I have a lot of tophandle saws, but I find myself using the little Echo more than any of them, lately. We call it "O.J." because it's a killer of a saw and none of my other saw scabbards fit it.

 

[SawTroll]

Here is an Echo website that state the power specs of the saws: http://www.echotools.com/products/category/

As you can see, those specs generally are extremely unimpressive, with the exception of a couple of fairly decent ones, namely the 501SX and the 620SX. I assume Echo can thank Shindaiwa, that they recently merged with, for that.

If anyone wondered why Echo doesn't provide any power specs in North America, the obvious answer is that the specs are an embarrassment that they don't want the costumers to know about.

If anyone wondered how Echo still can get away with not using either "strato" or Autotune technology, the answer likely is the low power output of most of the saws, relative to the displacement. That means less fuel consumption, that again means less emissions....

 

[jdvsn83]

Here is an Echo website that state the power specs of the saws: http://www.echotools.com/products/category/

As you can see, those specs generally are extremely unimpressive, with the exception of a couple of fairly decent ones, namely the 501SX and the 620SX. I assume Echo can thank Shindaiwa, that they recently merged with, for that.

If anyone wondered why Echo doesn't provide any power specs in North America, the obvious answer is that the specs are an embarrassment that they don't want the costumers to know about.

If anyone wondered how Echo still can get away with not using either "strato" or Autotune technology, the answer likely is the low power output of most of the saws, relative to the displacement. That means less fuel consumption, that again means less emissions....

CS-510 is pre Shindaiwa, and is a great saw...

 

[CoreyB]

I see a storm on the horizon.

There is a disturbance in the force with this one.

Someone is fishing.

Lol

 

[SawTroll]

I see a storm on the horizon.

There is a disturbance in the force with this one.

Someone is fishing.

Lol

Just posting some factual info - I don't plan to interfere further with the thread, except a single observation; The power specs of the 500/490 is lower than any other non Chinese 50c saw made after the Comet and Jonsereds diesel saws, that were made from 1949 to about 1960.

 

[jdvsn83]

Here is an Echo website that state the power specs of the saws: http://www.echotools.com/products/category/

As you can see, those specs generally are extremely unimpressive, with the exception of a couple of fairly decent ones, namely the 501SX and the 620SX. I assume Echo can thank Shindaiwa, that they recently merged with, for that.

If anyone wondered why Echo doesn't provide any power specs in North America, the obvious answer is that the specs are an embarrassment that they don't want the costumers to know about.

If anyone wondered how Echo still can get away with not using either "strato" or Autotune technology, the answer likely is the low power output of most of the saws, relative to the displacement. That means less fuel consumption, that again means less emissions....

Low power not necessarily means low fuel consumption, and low fuel consumption is not = low emissions.

My two Echo CS-750VL are old and underpowered saws but they are emissions monsters. Echo keeps the old engines in the market tuning them extremely lean...

Power specs mean nothing and are a little tricky, plus power tests for small engines are not standarized. You can have a chainsaw rated 4.2 HP @ 14,000 RPM (ISO8346986429846 without air filter, power measured directly to the PTO) and another one (IRAM3246324786 with air filter, bar and chain, running on ethanol fuel) 3.5 HP @ 9,500 RPM. I would go with the 3.5 HP one. Yes it's true, it's not the more powerfull, but the first one won't cut @ 14,000 RPM working in real life.

 

[KenJax Tree]

My favorite Echo is my PB 580T Shindawia copy blower.

 

[CoreyB]

I have been looking at their weed wackers and brush cutters or their multi head setup.
The new 2620 looks neat but I think it has a non adjustable carb.

 

[KenJax Tree]

I have been looking at their weed wackers and brush cutters or their multi head setup.
The new 2620 looks neat but I think it has a non adjustable carb.

A lot of that stuff is now with all brands. My Redmax edger and Echo blower have non-adjustable carbs. The Husky/Redmax blowers i looked at were the same way.

 

[CoreyB]

A lot of that stuff is now with all brands. My Redmax edger and Echo blower have non-adjustable carbs. The Husky/Redmax blowers i looked at were the same way.

That kinda stinks. Means I would have to mix a special batch of 50:1

 

[KenJax Tree]

That kinda stinks. Means I would have to mix a special batch of 50:1

They run pretty good at 40:1

If it blows up you have a 5 year warranty

 

[CoreyB]

They run pretty good at 40:1

If it blows up you have a 5 year warranty

Well I run 42.5 so I will be safe then. Lol

 

[KenJax Tree]

Well I run 42.5 so I will be safe then. Lol

Yup It'll run fine there

The only issue i have had is on my edger, when you mash the throttle it bogs for a few seconds until its warm

 

[SawTroll]

...,. a little tricky, plus power tests for small engines are not standarized. You can have a chainsaw rated 4.2 HP @ 14,000 RPM (ISO8346986429846 without air filter, power measured directly to the PTO) and another one (IRAM3246324786 with air filter, bar and chain, running on ethanol fuel) 3.5 HP @ 9,500 RPM. I would go with the 3.5 HP one. Yes it's true, it's not the more powerfull, but the first one won't cut @ 14,000 RPM working in real life.

No chainsaws have their rated max power at 14.000 rpm. Most fairly modern saws have the max output at somewhere between 9.000 and 10.200 rpm.

Max recommended rpm (that often is about 13.000 - 14.000) is a different parameter, that has nothing to do with the max power output.

If the specs for a saw says "4.2 HP @ 14,000 RPM" it either is a misprint, or it just is a sloppy and misleading way to state that max power is 4.2 hp and max rpm 14.000. I have seen it done (but not with those exact numbers).

 

[SawTroll]

Low power not necessarily means low fuel consumption, and low fuel consumption is not = low emissions.

..... .

True, not necessarily, but there often is some connection if the designers/engineers have done a decent job.