Dolmar 64xx/73xx/79xx series, smurfs and solo 665/675/681 thread

[PA Dan]

Is it here yet

Nope...

 

[tickbitintn]

Looking good dood

@tickbitintn

Thanks, just following most of what I see here. This is my first dolkita. I also picked up a 5105 which I like as well.


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[RI Chevy]

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NICE!!!

 

[tickbitintn]

Thats why I was told to remove that corner.

Piston squeezes all the good stuff out to the side

Just had enough time to rough them in.
Hope mine look as clean as those when I'm done. [emoji846]

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[mettee]

Just had enough time to rough them in.
Hope mine look as clean as those when I'm done. [emoji846]

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They will. Looks like you got it.

I use a really small burr and take my time. I always leave it, and come back later to observe what I did and decide if I need to take more. I tried to mimick the good side over to the side with the corner. Look at it from all angles and watch the flow. I finished with a cartridge roll and some hand sanding with my finger tip.

I'm sending that out to rattler to cut squish and base, then I'll time it and finish the transfers, intake and exhaust. The intake and exhaust are pretty close.

 

[00wyk]

The saw weight comments and comparisons are worse than arguments what oil to use at what ratio.

Just so You know I have no clue how much xx lbs is and I had to look it up on Google.
For example:
13.6lbs = 6.17kg
14.6lbs = 6.62kg
To me in lbs the difference looks and sounds huge, shown in kg the difference is at 0.45kg barely worth mentioning.

If You can feel the weight difference of under 1/2kg than You must be able to feel the need to refuel Your saws tanks BEFORE the engine or chain tell You so, considering that fuel & oil tank carry over 1kg of fluids combined (Dolmar PS-7900, 0.75 + 0.42 liter).

Some of You guys must be really sensitive.
No bad thoughts nor toe stepping intended, I am just making a post as have You.

I understand what you're saying. It's interesting you would ask such a thing in a 7900 thread, but I'll get to that later.

The thing about weight is, unlike oil, you can prove what the weight is with a simple photograph(as andre showed a few pages hence). The only thing folks can prove in an oil debate is they can argue on the internet. That weight gallery speaks for itself, regardless of what I personally feel about it. And it does so 24/7, and is available to everyone and anyone(feel free to submit photos to me). And it's certainly surprised me a few times.

Like I stated before, I started the gallery because of misinformation. To me, I think if you can bring the truth to light, and if you have the proof, you have an obligation to share it. And, like most truths, expect to meet a good amount of resistance whilst sharing it. And wow, the push back has been even more so than I anticipated. Case in point as you have a rather common argument.

It has nothing to do with being sensitive. The chainsaw weight gallery doesn't have any insecurities to do with it's masculinity. It has to do with posterity and honesty. When was the last time you heard someone say a Dolmar or Husky weighed less than 14 lbs? It used to be a common statement on the forums, but is now very rare.

But, for the sake of argument, when you need a 50cc saw, do you carry a 70cc saw? Most likely not. In fact, if you look at people's signatures, even the professionals often have a great many different saws in various shapes and sizes. I have seven that I use on a huge estate in Waterford. It is because the weights and sizes absolutely matter. It has nothing to do with being overly sensitive, and everything to do with practicality. Being practical is being smart. And folks port their saws just for that reason(amongst others, of course).

Size and performance go hand in hand.

Otherwise, a 7900 thread like this would never have existed.

 

[huskyboy]

 

[dustinwilt68]

I hear ya Mason.

 

[dustinwilt68]

Is weight more important then balance? Ergonomics? Durability? I think everyone gets to enamored with a scale. Its like wow my saw weighs 2oz less so it must be better. SMH. Never heard a logger worry about weighing a saw on a scale. Consider what guys carried 40 yrs ago. Mac 125s, husky 2100s, Stihl 090 etc

 

[00wyk]

Is weight more important then balance? Ergonomics? Durability? I think everyone gets to enamored with a scale. Its like wow my saw weighs 2oz less so it must be better. SMH. Never heard a logger worry about weighing a saw on a scale. Consider what guys carried 40 yrs ago. Mac 125s, husky 2100s, Stihl 090 etc

Balance changes the moment you decide what bar and chain. PHO empty static weight never changes. It is the only universal gauge there is. Balance and ergonomics can be completely subjective. PHO weights aren't. Or, rather, with a proof of their weights, they aren't.

 

[00wyk]

It's all good. Didn't you recently purchase a 572?

 

[00wyk]

Is weight more important then balance? Ergonomics? Durability? I think everyone gets to enamored with a scale. Its like wow my saw weighs 2oz less so it must be better. SMH. Never heard a logger worry about weighing a saw on a scale. Consider what guys carried 40 yrs ago. Mac 125s, husky 2100s, Stihl 090 etc

I wonder how many loggers would carry a 125 instead of a 7900 nowadays.

 

[huskyboy]

Lets try to not let this thread turn into a chit show.

 

[dustinwilt68]

Point is a 13lb saw with 20" bar and chain might not be comfortable as a 13lb 6 oz saw with same bar and chain, while it is subjective, so are each of us. What's comfortable to me may not work for you, at the end of the day put the saw on your hands and see if you like it, no scale is gonna tell you that.

 

[andyshine77]

I wonder how many loggers would carry a 125 instead of a 7900 nowadays.

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[Rob Stafari]

I understand what you're saying. It's interesting you would ask such a thing in a 7900 thread, but I'll get to that later.

The thing about weight is, unlike oil, you can prove what the weight is with a simple photograph(as andre showed a few pages hence). The only thing folks can prove in an oil debate is they can argue on the internet. That weight gallery speaks for itself, regardless of what I personally feel about it. And it does so 24/7, and is available to everyone and anyone(feel free to submit photos to me). And it's certainly surprised me a few times.

Like I stated before, I started the gallery because of misinformation. To me, I think if you can bring the truth to light, and if you have the proof, you have an obligation to share it. And, like most truths, expect to meet a good amount of resistance whilst sharing it. And wow, the push back has been even more so than I anticipated. Case in point as you have a rather common argument.

It has nothing to do with being sensitive. The chainsaw weight gallery doesn't have any insecurities to do with it's masculinity. It has to do with posterity and honesty. When was the last time you heard someone say a Dolmar or Husky weighed less than 14 lbs? It used to be a common statement on the forums, but is now very rare.

But, for the sake of argument, when you need a 50cc saw, do you carry a 70cc saw? Most likely not. In fact, if you look at people's signatures, even the professionals often have a great many different saws in various shapes and sizes. I have seven that I use on a huge estate in Waterford. It is because the weights and sizes absolutely matter. It has nothing to do with being overly sensitive, and everything to do with practicality. Being practical is being smart. And folks port their saws just for that reason(amongst others, of course).

Size and performance go hand in hand.

Otherwise, a 7900 thread like this would never have existed.

I have an 026 that almost never gets used. It takes not only steep terrain, but me being already exhausted before I will grab it. If I have just about anything to cut I'm going straight for the 6401/7910 unless... 1: It is up in the air and I'm leaving the ground with a 200t. 2: It is a massive piece of wood and I'm grabbing the chinese 660, and the 394xp for backup because you never know with those things. A large portion of what I cut with my dolkita could easily be cut with the smaller saw. So yes I do carry a 79cc saw when all I need is a 50(or even smaller) Not only does it save me a lot of bending over with the longer bar, but it is just so smooth.

 

[RI Chevy]

You don't know what your missing then. You'll use less fuel using smaller saw. AND save your bigger saw for when it's "really needed."
Just my take on it. The size of the tree dictates what saw I use to cut it up.
Just me. But to each his own. [emoji106]

 

[Rob Stafari]

My story might change if I ever get a nice and smooth small saw with some good spring AV. My bones are sore enough from years of swinging a hammer and such.

Can't say I'm worried about a little fuel. My box van gets 9 miles to the gallon and goes everywhere with me so I always have most all my tools/hardware with me. Even though the majority of the time I could fit what I need in a diesel volkswagon van that gets 45 miles to the gallon on the highway.

As far as saving the bigger saw, I have three near matching dolkitas and only one 026. I'd rather save it for times when it benefits me more. It stays at the property I manage so I always have a saw there for emergencies. Don't always have saws in my truck. It was a $50 craigslist score that needed minimal work. It is the only saw I have I won't be furious if it grows legs and walks away(Don't get me wrong, I'll still me mad, but...) I have two gas saws in my van right now, the 7900 and the 200t. As a two saw plan, it can really do just about any tree Ohio has to offer.

Plus the ultimate reality is time is my most important commodity. I'm not going to drop a tree, switch saws to limb it, the swap back. I'm not even going to waste the time/effort to grab a second saw out of the truck if I don't know that I need it. Have enough to carry as it is. Sure the 026 can cut a 16 in tree(or twice that if need be) It sure as hell won't cut it as fast as a dolkita

Moral of the story is, and to keep this thread in line... the 64/7910 rocks!

 

[huskyboy]

You don't know what your missing then. You'll use less fuel using smaller saw. AND save your bigger saw for when it's "really needed."
Just my take on it. The size of the tree dictates what saw I use to cut it up.
Just me. But to each his own. [emoji106]

Logging is a bit different story than residential, can only take one saw into the woods and leave your backup in the truck. I’m not changing to a 50cc just to cut a few smaller trees out of a majority of larger ones in the timber. I understand where your coming from though.

 

[RI Chevy]

I understand logging. 1 man, 1 saw.
I thought Rob was referring more toward a tree removal type company.
Firewooding is much different than tree removal and logging for sure. We firewooders are kooks. Lol