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I'd be glad to talk about this situation to anyone. If anyone would like to tell me how wrong we are about how we are running this site just call.

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you don't seem pissed off when we talk
 

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If piling on someone for tuning a saw makes any sense.

I'm pretty damn tired of the Brad haters club.

Wanna be a member of this site......great.

Just here to give Snelling a hard time........go the hell away.

I gave up SawHawgz because of the constant drama. I will not have it brought here.

If my "friends" can't understand that.....well they must not be that good of friends any damn way.

I'm not sure I can make myself any clearer.
I dont "hate" anyone but Im sure Ill be looked upon by some that way for saying this.

I really dont care who owned the saw or decided to sell the saw before it grenaded but why is that particular saw even being brought up considering the chain of events?
 

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What chain of events?
1. Original owner of saw was told there was something wrong with the saw.

2. Saw was sold to another. I will not speculate whether or not new owner purchased saw knowing this.

3. Saw was sent to you to evaluate.

4. Saw grenaded.

5. You find it neccesaary to add this saw to the list and post in this thread.
 

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I dont "hate" anyone but Im sure Ill be looked upon by some that way for saying this.

I really dont care who owned the saw or decided to sell the saw before it grenaded but why is that particular saw even being brought up considering the chain of events?

1. Original owner of saw was told there was something wrong with the saw.

2. Saw was sold to another. I will not speculate whether or not new owner purchased saw knowing this.

3. Saw was sent to you to evaluate.

4. Saw grenaded.

5. You find it neccesaary to add this saw to the list and post in this thread.

Nothing wrong with the way you are approaching this John. Lots of guys have questions about this saw.

@laslabjohn @Keith Gandy @Edwad

Lets hash this all out while we are hashing stuff out.
 

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Nothing wrong with the way you are approaching this John. Lots of guys have questions about this saw.

@laslabjohn @Keith Gandy @Edwad

Lets hash this all out while we are hashing stuff out.

Was the saw just not a powerful as John expected?

What was Mike told about it?

What did was Brad told by Mike?

I'd love to see this all put to rest please.
 

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well i hope everything works out for randy and the owner of this saw.
have a good one.
 

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1. Original owner of saw was told there was something wrong with the saw.

5. You find it neccesaary to add this saw to the list and post in this thread.
1. That was nothing but an attempted cover-up by Jason because the customer wasn't happy with the saw.

What you don't know is that I pulled the cylinder off this saw before I ever ran it. It was fully inspected before I ran it. After all, that's what I was asked to do. I didn't just pull it out of the box, fire it up, and go WOT.

There was nothing obvious mechanically wrong with it. I found numerous issues of sloppy work, but nothing that would have caused a catastrophic failure. I even degreed the saw and pulled a compression check.

Before this video was made, I made one or two cuts with it to make sure it ran right and to tune it. It actually ran very well, IMHO. I turned on the camera, verified the tune RPMs on the tach, which was only 13,800 IIRC, and it went boom before I could video a cut in the wood.

For whatever reason, either the rod or the piston failed. My opinion is that it was the piston. It had been ground on and lightened, but not so much so that I anticipated its failure. Why did it fail? I can't tell you that.

5. Jason built the saw and it exploded, costing the owner $500 in parts alone. Is that not enough reason? How is it any different than Randy starting this thread?

Feel free to ask any questions. We all know what happens when we make assumptions.
 

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1. That was nothing but an attempted cover-up by Jason because the customer wasn't happy with the saw.

What you don't know is that I pulled the cylinder off this saw before I ever ran it. It was fully inspected before I ran it. After all, that's what I was asked to do. I didn't just pull it out of the box, fire it up, and go WOT.

There was nothing obvious mechanically wrong with it. I found numerous issues of sloppy work, but nothing that would have caused a catastrophic failure. I even degreed the saw and pulled a compression check.

Before this video was made, I made one or two cuts with it to make sure it ran right and to tune it. It actually ran very well, IMHO. I turned on the camera, verified the tune RPMs on the tach, which was only 13,800 IIRC, and it went boom before I could video a cut in the wood.

For whatever reason, either the rod or the piston failed. My opinion is that it was the piston. It had been ground on and lightened, but not so much so that I anticipated its failure. Why did it fail? I can't tell you that.

5. Jason built the saw and it exploded, costing the owner $500 in parts alone. Is that not enough reason? How is it any different than Randy starting this thread?

Feel free to ask any questions. We all know what happens when we make assumptions.

If there was a problem with it, according to JMS, why did Keith and John sell it to another, instead of sending it back to JMS? You may not be able to answer this, but it is what I've always found to be hinky in this whole saga.
 

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If there was a problem with it, according to JMS, why did Keith and John sell it to another, instead of sending it back to JMS? You may not be able to answer this, but it is what I've always found to be hinky in this whole saga.

That there was something wrong with it was never something I heard from @Keith Gandy or @laslabjohn . I heard from Keith that a 390XP that I built outran it........and that is why John sold it. Not that it was messed up........just that it wasn't as bad assed as John hoped it would be.
 

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That there was something wrong with it was never something I heard from @Keith Gandy or @laslabjohn . I heard from Keith that a 390XP that I built outran it........and that is why John sold it. Not that it was messed up........just that it wasn't as bad assed as John hoped it would be.
That's a very different version...
 

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That there was something wrong with it was never something I heard from @Keith Gandy or @laslabjohn . I heard from Keith that a 390XP that I built outran it........and that is why John sold it. Not that it was messed up........just that it wasn't as bad assed as John hoped it would be.
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