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Wow nice size ,i was looking at 25 -33 hp other day ,not sure if they would pick up my logs though i don't do hay so not sure if need a lot of hp or not .
Get something that can at least lift a ton.
You got some big sticks there, and once they get over 10' long, they start getting freaking heavy.
 

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Get something that can at least lift a ton.
You got some big sticks there, and once they get over 10' long, they start getting freaking heavy.
My skidloader has forks ,but it is an old tired machine ,lot of my 8-12 foot lengths are pretty heavy ,the rear wheels are off the ground moving them ,so the forks become the front wheels at that point ,Kubota dealer has zero percent right now ,he thought 25-33 ho model would do what i need to do ,i think the loader attachment said 525 on it ,can get pallet forks and backhoe for the chassis he said .
 

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Lots of the smaller tractors have plenty of hydraulic power In fact in my opinion most have more than they should as they can lift more than the machine should have been capable of. If you're gonna use it as a forklift it's likely you'll be fine with the smaller machine just drive with some sense. Watch how high you lift stuff and watch turning sharp
 

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Lots of the smaller tractors have plenty of hydraulic power In fact in my opinion most have more than they should as they can lift more than the machine should have been capable of. If you're gonna use it as a forklift it's likely you'll be fine with the smaller machine just drive with some sense. Watch how high you lift stuff and watch turning sharp
What he said. But shop around, study up on hydraulics. Some of the the newer compacts hydraulics will amaze you,and some of them flat out suck.
 
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We have a Kubota , a Yamnar ,and a Mahindra dealer in town here ,i guess the Yamnar is more or less a John deer with different colors ?
 

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We have a Kubota , a Yamnar ,and a Mahindra dealer in town here ,i guess the Yamnar is more or less a John deer with different colors ?
Correct. Japanese, dependable, like kubota's, but light also for the HP. The Mahindra tractors are the heaviest in their class. Not sure why..?? The Kubota's are the Toyota of the tractor world. Dependable. Just get the size above the HP you think you need, so you can get a little extra lead in it's ass.
Then balast the rear tires for good measure. Lol.
 

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Interesting thread but I don't see any distinction made between green fresh felled hardwood or the HARD standing dead stuff with the bark sloughed off. Big difference. Most my loops are 30 degree with a 5-10 degree down angle, .030-.035 raker depth, works great for me on green oak. Even dead oak over 12" or larger stays pretty easy cutting, it's when you get to the standing dead stuff like I mentioned-under 8" or so can get a little rough on cutters, especially White Oak.
This is just a thought of mine, no actual real life proof that it is accurate or truly works/makes any difference in dry hardwood's!

My though derives from processing grey cast iron, not dry extreme hardwood!

The harder the material one should decrease feed and speed!
On a chainsaw that would mean higer Rackers to decrease "bite", full complement chain to decrease chatter and as low chain speed as possible to allow the cutters to bite and actually cut.
Full conplement chain on a gear drive saw comes to mind.

In hard cast iron a tungsten carbide drill will either shatter from too high feed or burn from too high spindle speed (which leads to a shattered drill due to cutter dullness).

I know my post might not directly relate to hard wood and chainsaws, but it might be a decent starting point.

I would really like some extreme dry hardwood to try and prove or dismiss my theory - but dry acacia is as hard as it gets in my area.

I haven't cut any firewood in about two months, my craving for some trigger time is becoming unbearable! :(

Cheers :beer-toast1:
 
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Correct. Japanese, dependable, like kubota's, but light also for the HP. The Mahindra tractors are the heaviest in their class. Not sure why..?? The Kubota's are the Toyota of the tractor world. Dependable. Just get the size above the HP you think you need, so you can get a little extra lead in it's ass.
Then balast the rear tires for good measure. Lol.
Yanmar is Yanmar . John Deere up to and including 4000 series are Yanmars. 5000 series and up are all Deere.
I've run both. I prefer the the 4000 series Yanmar over the 5000 series Deere. The Yanmar has faster and stronger hydraulics than the bigger Deere. The Deere 5000 series have great pto power for their size.
 

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We have a Kubota , a Yamnar ,and a Mahindra dealer in town here ,i guess the Yamnar is more or less a John deer with different colors ?
If all you're doing with it is loading logs onto the mill, you're probably better off with a skidsteer. Unless you have a need for a 3 point.
Look at specs on a Cat 277b track skidloader, or the equivalent JD. You ain't lifting the front or rear off the ground with what you're doing. 70 or 80hp in a 40hp frame
 

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If all you're doing with it is loading logs onto the mill, you're probably better off with a skidsteer. Unless you have a need for a 3 point.
Look at specs on a Cat 277b track skidloader, or the equivalent JD. You ain't lifting the front or rear off the ground with what you're doing. 70 or 80hp in a 40hp frame
They go for about $20k around here used. Deets has videos of his in the woods. They're amazing
 

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Only my thoughts. Purchased 2004 New Holland TC33d new, with loader, heavy duty bucket, replaceable cutting edge and loaded tires. I use bucket forks to move logs and wish I had purchased quick detach pallet forks, every inch counts, getting load close to loader. Four wheel drive is needed or I would have to add more wheel weights or 3 point ballast. Tractor's loader will lift enough to flip tractor, so keep your hand on loader control and be ready to drop it, lifting 24 inch diameter 8 foot long green oak above 6 foot is nerve racking. Neighbor has 56 hp Kubota with pallet forks and makes mine look like a toy. I agree with larger tractor or skidsteer is even better.
 

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I have an L3600 Kubota. 39hp and loaded tires. 10' long x 26" diameter ash log is all it wanted. It was OK picking from both sides of the bucket, but if I hooked it up to one side, it wanted to tip. Dad's 277b threw it around like a Lincoln log.
 
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