Archer chain

[3browns]

Why didn't you try cutting with the factory grind first?

A lot of chain companies are boasting about 'improved out-of-the-box' grinds, even some that are hard to duplicate with the first sharpening.

Philbert

I didn't try cutting because I don't have the saw that these chains go with yet...

I am expecting it in the next few weeks

I left one chain stock so it will be an interesting experiment to see what's what between the two

And yeah, this grind would be hard to duplicate; I would like to see the profile of the grinding wheels they use

I think what's got me scratching my head is the large number of burrs left behind by hand filing as well as the couple of cutters that were hard enough to just shrug off a new Stihl file

If the stock chain cuts great I will certainly eat humble pie and let the world know

Don't get me wrong; I WANT this chain to work and cut and last

I LIKE options

Dot Dot Dot

 

[Philbert]

I left one chain stock so it will be an interesting experiment to see what's what between the two

Look forward to what you find.

And yeah, this grind would be hard to duplicate; I would like to see the profile of the grinding wheels they use

They don't use the same grinders we do. And some of the new ones are CNC. But the square grind guys profile their wheels, so if you really liked it . . .

Philbert

 

[Cat 525]

Tried a 24 3/8 050 logging and got along fine! Wore it down to nubbins hand filing and never took off saw! Stretch also fine as I never had to shorten. I run max amount of good oil on chain always.

 

[3browns]

Tried a 24 3/8 050 logging and got along fine! Wore it down to nubbins hand filing and never took off saw! Stretch also fine as I never had to shorten. I run max amount of good oil on chain always.

This is what I am hoping for and looking forward to!

 

[WKEND LUMBERJAK]

Tried a 24 3/8 050 logging and got along fine! Wore it down to nubbins hand filing and never took off saw! Stretch also fine as I never had to shorten. I run max amount of good oil on chain always.

Let's not turn this into a oil thread.

 

[ajschainsaws]

Tried a 24 3/8 050 logging and got along fine! Wore it down to nubbins hand filing and never took off saw! Stretch also fine as I never had to shorten. I run max amount of good oil on chain always.

I got a couple of loops the same it looks pretty good out the box
Been slacking lately gotta get on and cut some

 

[thedude74]

The loop of Archer 3/8" .058 84 DL showed up yesterday. Delivered in 5 days from the lower 48 order date. So far looking over the chain. Drive links appear consistent as far as no binding or excessively loose links. Cutter teeth are fairly sharp with a very small bur in the middle of the gullet. A few gullets are cut slightly lower than most....not much but visable on close inspection. The oil grooves on the driver's are certainly different than the oil holes used by others. Better? Worse? Don't know.

The real question...will it cut and hold and edge? Should have some time this next week to know. Now that the snow is gone tons of dead downed spruce have been exposed. I generally touch up the chain after every tank or two never letting it get dull. My plan is to run this until it is noticably duller and see how it holds an edge. A little subjective but should give me an idea. Hoping it performs well. $13.21 shipped for a 24" loop is tough to beat. Anyway, I'll give an update after some trigger time on it.

 

[Nutball]

Spruce being soft wood should take a long time to dull, 5 to even 20 tanks easily if treated well. I've had Husqvarna chain go pretty dull in as little as 10 cuts in hickory, but it may have been skidded. Stihl chain lasted through 3 hickory trees before noticeably dulling, and was still cutting plenty well enough through another 5-7 trees before needing sharpening.

 

[thedude74]

Last 20 tanks? Whoa. That's a little optimistic.

 

[Nutball]

For a big saw, yes. I'll readjust that to 5. I tend to forget using little top handle saws so much you can go through several tanks on one sharpening in soft wood.

 

[Wilhelm]

A new Archer loop I got, looks much different than the other one I have.

 

[Junk Meister]

A new Archer loop I got, looks much different than the other one I have.
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Is this good or bad? New one better?

 

[Wilhelm]

Is this good or bad? New one better?

I haven't tried the new Archer loop yet!
I will make sure to record it's initial factory new performance.

 

[3browns]

A new Archer loop I got, looks much different than the other one I have.
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It's interesting that your Archer cutters have filing angle marks and the cutters on the loops I bought do not

Mine are semi-chisel and yours looks to be full chisel so I guess thats the difference

 

[jakethesnake]

It's interesting that your Archer cutters have filing angle marks and the cutters on the loops I bought do not

Mine are semi-chisel and yours looks to be full chisel so I guess thats the difference

My brand new semi chisel skip doesn’t have witness marks either. My chisel does

 

[Junk Meister]

Let's not turn this into a oil thread.

Ya gotta keep him in check Heard he is good at derails

 

[3browns]

My brand new semi chisel skip doesn’t have witness marks either. My chisel does

I went down to the garage and got out a loop of Oregon 72DPX semi-chisel and a 72LGX full-chisel and damned if the semi-chisel doesn't have witness marks but the full-chisel does

This is apparently some kind of far reaching international conspiracy

or

They figure folks that buy SEMI don't file their own chains or sumpin

 

[thedude74]

A new Archer loop I got, looks much different than the other one I have.
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That looks the same as the Archer chain i received the other day. Slapped a 24" bar on the Echo 590 and ran about 3/4 of a tank through it. Still razor sharp, a little stretch, probably less than Oregon lgx. So far I'm impressed. I'll keep running and report back.

 

[Larry B]

Just got done doing some limbing and cutting up some small stuff with the MS170 with Archer full chisel 3/8 .050 . Pretty aggressive and cut better than a new loop of Oregon semi chisel. Only ran 1 tank through it but for the price the stuff seems pretty good on a small saw. I know it is not an apples to apples with full vs semi chisel but the difference was substantial.

 

[RI Chevy]

3/8 on a Stihl MS170? Hmmm.