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No apologies necessary. All good advice. Maybe I will just polish the port then without changing the size. Muff mod it and advance the timing. That will be plenty for my first attempt.
 

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Listen to Jim and Brett.

Widening that port's gonna give you that "feel good" feeling, but likely is just useless work.

Increasing the area of a port is gonna do nothing if you don't have more volume to flow through it. In fact, it will generally make things worse. You kinda want the smallest and tightest port possible to flow what you want at said RPM.

What's the squish without gasket?

Remember the 90/10 rule. 90% of gains are found in 10% of the work, and visa versa.

Unless you have access or are willing to have machine work done to the cylinder, and you can set up and use a degree wheel, just adjust your squish to 15-20. Use some sticky backed sandpaper on your piston crown to sand some out of the band if necessary to achieve your goal.

Advance the timing and muff mod the saw.

If you grind on any port, you'll need at least a small chamfer on the edge of what you ground or you'll chew your piston up. Been there, done that.

Remember that the OEM designed that cylinder through millions of dollars of research. Those ports are already in spots where the best compromise of power/fuel efficiency/durability is. When we play with the ports, we just pick one of these to trade with the other.

Sorry for the long winded response.
Very, well said Al.
 

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Listen to Jim and Brett.

Widening that port's gonna give you that "feel good" feeling, but likely is just useless work.

Increasing the area of a port is gonna do nothing if you don't have more volume to flow through it. In fact, it will generally make things worse. You kinda want the smallest and tightest port possible to flow what you want at said RPM.

What's the squish without gasket?

Remember the 90/10 rule. 90% of gains are found in 10% of the work, and visa versa.

Unless you have access or are willing to have machine work done to the cylinder, and you can set up and use a degree wheel, just adjust your squish to 15-20. Use some sticky backed sandpaper on your piston crown to sand some out of the band if necessary to achieve your goal.

Advance the timing and muff mod the saw.

If you grind on any port, you'll need at least a small chamfer on the edge of what you ground or you'll chew your piston up. Been there, done that.

Remember that the OEM designed that cylinder through millions of dollars of research. Those ports are already in spots where the best compromise of power/fuel efficiency/durability is. When we play with the ports, we just pick one of these to trade with the other.

Sorry for the long winded response.


Squish in a 55 is huge Doc, IIRC 0.055" to 0.058" with no gasket is common. Gasket is very thin on these, I think only like 0.010" or so.
 

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When I get it running I'm going to compare it to my PP 335. Both 55cc's, both running a .325/18" chain
 

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Well, now that I finished replumbing my well and installing a new faucet and completing my yard work, I finally started my 55 project. Rigged up a port tool and started on the cylinder. My plans are to shape the port a little more downward without opening up the cylinder side, polishing the port, muffler modding, and advancing the timing a hair. I am also swapping to a .325 rim.0614171235b.jpg 0615170604.jpg
 

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Sounds like you have a plan. That's good. Here's to a successful endeavor.
 

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Nice smooth grinding. Is that an aircraft rivet gun in your tool box drawer?
 

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I didn't finish it yet. I took a break to work on a couple other saws for other people and to finish up my Poulan 2900/ Husqvarna 141 hybrid. I hope I can finish the 55 today and try it out.
 

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I got to fire up the King Rancher 55 today. Runs quite well. I am going to sharpen the chain and shoot a video tomorrow hopefully. I like that I could lean into it a bit and it did not slow down, so that's an improvement. Especially with a dull chain. A couple things left to tidy it up a bit, need to rewind the starter, lock right a couple screws. But here it is.0701171609.jpg 0701171610.jpg
 
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