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I will be going to class tomorrow everybody, is there any questions or concerns that you would like posed? We should be going over any updates and more than likely will be doing a new product teardown (my best guess is the new PB-5810 backpack blower but I may be surprised).

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I'm concerned Echo is missing out big time on the share of the big saw market. Tell them to get the 1201 available in the USA.

And they should have a boot go around the carb adjust screws on the 303t if they still sell it, so some dummy doesn't have to worry about throwing away the plug causing a bunch of sawdust to bypass the filter.

They should offer a 9t 1/4 sprocket for the power pruners, and maybe redesign the bar pad area, so it is more compatible with other bar types (like the Stihl 1/4 pitch bars). I can't remember the problem I ran into, but I think oil was going to leak since it doesnt use flat & wide bar pads.
 

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I'm concerned Echo is missing out big time on the share of the big saw market. Tell them to get the 1201 available in the USA.

And they should have a boot go around the carb adjust screws on the 303t if they still sell it, so some dummy doesn't have to worry about throwing away the plug causing a bunch of sawdust to bypass the filter.

They should offer a 9t 1/4 sprocket for the power pruners, and maybe redesign the bar pad area, so it is more compatible with other bar types (like the Stihl 1/4 pitch bars). I can't remember the problem I ran into, but I think oil was going to leak since it doesnt use flat & wide bar pads.

We have been screaming ar them about the 1201 for years and will continue to do so. Unfortunately it does not pass emissions so I severely doubt it will ever happen.

I will definitely bring this up about the 303T, I do believe they are out of production now.

Will touch on the subject of a 9T 1/4" drive sprocket however I doubt it will do any good, Echo seems to have a vendetta against 1/4" pitch chain.
 
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With their fancy porting and no auto tune, I'm sure they could get the 1201 to pass emissions.

And tell them whenever they design a new saw to keep porters in mind, giving them an easy to work with design that lends well to huge gains.

Maybe they could redesign the 2511t muffler so the cylinder side of it doesnt have such a restriction. The cylinder opening is fine, but that tight skinny bend between the oversized bolt heads is really stupid.

It's also a bummer that they traded out the lightest in its class 490 for a much heavier replacement.

And the 1/4 9t sprocket costs nothing to develop, and would sell well I'm sure. Just needs to be paired with a compatible Sugi bar hopefully in .043.

Do they offer the 2511t in .325lp? Stihl is or was big on options, like 3/8lp in 6t & 7t for the 201t as well as 1/4. 9t & 10t 1/4 would probably work on the 2511t depending on gauge, size of wood being cut, and whether the muffler developed a second hole in it. That reminds me, I need to try my 9t 1/4 rim on my rim compatible 2511 clutch. I was running it on the pole saw until the JB Weld let go.


And why the frequent use of 90 degree exhaust ports on top handle saws? Are they trying to build the slowest saws in the market? What other brands use a 90deg? Maybe it is emissions based since most straight port saws have the EX port still pointing down, which still doesn't lend well to good exhaust flow when the exhaust slams into the muffler wall just 1/2" away.
 

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With their fancy porting and no auto tune, I'm sure they could get the 1201 to pass emissions.

And tell them whenever they design a new saw to keep porters in mind, giving them an easy to work with design that lends well to huge gains.

Maybe they could redesign the 2511t muffler so the cylinder side of it doesnt have such a restriction. The cylinder opening is fine, but that tight skinny bend between the oversized bolt heads is really stupid.

It's also a bummer that they traded out the lightest in its class 490 for a much heavier replacement.

And the 1/4 9t sprocket costs nothing to develop, and would sell well I'm sure. Just needs to be paired with a compatible Sugi bar hopefully in .043.

Do they offer the 2511t in .325lp? Stihl is or was big on options, like 3/8lp in 6t & 7t for the 201t as well as 1/4. 9t & 10t 1/4 would probably work on the 2511t depending on gauge, size of wood being cut, and whether the muffler developed a second hole in it. That reminds me, I need to try my 9t 1/4 rim on my rim compatible 2511 clutch. I was running it on the pole saw until the JB Weld let go.


And why the frequent use of 90 degree exhaust ports on top handle saws? Are they trying to build the slowest saws in the market? What other brands use a 90deg? Maybe it is emissions based since most straight port saws have the EX port still pointing down, which still doesn't lend well to good exhaust flow when the exhaust slams into the muffler wall just 1/2" away.

I broached the subject of the 1201 again, no official word but probably not.

I believe there is a 1/4" Pitch 9 Tooth sprocket available from Oregon.

The 2511T and P are now both available with 80TXL (.325 narrow kerf).

Yeah the exhaust port thing has me scratching my head as well, space issues in such a tight package maybe?
 

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Since they are jumping into the lawn mower market, how about a quality side discharge gas push mower? Cheap junk is all that is available in this category these days.

A 21" 3 in 1 is the first model coming out.

We sell Masport at our shop, their 21" side discharge push mowers are tanks and are reasonably priced.
 

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If I buy an echo blower I wanna get it from you.

Call the shop Ryan (770-266-0103), we try to keep the PB-5810T, PB-770T, EB-790RT, EB-910RT, and PB-9010T in stock at all times. Which one would you be interested in? The EB-910RT and PB-9010T are great during leaf season but personally I feel like the EB-790RT is the best all around unit.
 
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