2017 MMWS GTG Box Saw Build Off Rules

[Deets066]

Hello, new guy here hoping to get added to the list for the 066/MS660 clone. Watched the vids of the bolt by bolt from a member here. I'm currently rebuilding two 362's and getting ready to start on two 192t's. This looks like a solution to my need for a very occasional big wood saw.

ETA:. Just noticed Chainsaw Conservation Components. I bought some OEM parts for the 362's for his eBay store.

CCC sells lots of good parts and is a good dude to deal with.
He is also a member here

 

[Mastermind]

CCC sells lots of good parts and is a good dude to deal with.
He is also a member here

You mean Ol Sod Cutter?

 

[dall]

You mean Ol Sod Cutter?

yes but hes been practicing lol

 

[drf256]

Just my opinion.

I think class 3 should exclude any funny fuel and the builder must use the supplied chain.

I think that levels the playing field more. Puts emphasis on engineering the motor to make the most power.

Adding racing chains and nitromethane won't allow us to fully evaluate what worked and what didn't.

I personally don't see the fun in a guy kicking the shít outa someone cause he ran nitro and the other guy didn't. I realize engineering plays a role in a saw's ability to be able to run nitro and keep the crank intact.

Maybe class 3A, 3B and 3C?

B for race chains, C for race chains and whatever fuel you want.

I know it complicates things, but running nitro seems to be a cheat in what we are trying to do here. Same with the chain thing. I thought the point of it all was to build the best saw we could with the parts we were provided and the mods to the saw we each chose to do.

Just my $.02 which clearly does not need to be heeded.

 

[Deets066]

Just my opinion.

I think class 3 should exclude any funny fuel and the builder must use the supplied chain.

I think that levels the playing field more. Puts emphasis on engineering the motor to make the most power.

Adding racing chains and nitromethane won't allow us to fully evaluate what worked and what didn't.

I personally don't see the fun in a guy kicking the shít outa someone cause he ran nitro and the other guy didn't. I realize engineering plays a role in a saw's ability to be able to run nitro and keep the crank intact.

Maybe class 3A, 3B and 3C?

B for race chains, C for race chains and whatever fuel you want.

I know it complicates things, but running nitro seems to be a cheat in what we are trying to do here. Same with the chain thing. I thought the point of it all was to build the best saw we could with the parts we were provided and the mods to the saw we each chose to do.

Just my $.02 which clearly does not need to be heeded.

I think building the best saw with the provided parts will be in class 2.

Class three was suppose to be anything goes and put whatever parts on top of the Asian crank. So there isn't really anything level about class 3 anyway

 

[T.Roller]

I think building the best saw with the provided parts will be in class 2.

Class three was suppose to be anything goes and put whatever parts on top of the Asian crank. So there isn't really anything level about class 3 anyway

Agreed. If you don't want funny fuels run in class two

 

[mdavlee]

That's a long cut to be running nitro anyway. I think pump gas will be the winner in that class anyway. Might be a piped saw but pump gas.

 

[T.Roller]

I'd like to see a flame thrower!

 

[drf256]

Ok. Guess we all have different goals here, which is fine.

Was thinking Nitro may explode anyway.

Chains being ground at Randy's or before hand?

Who supplies the 32" bar?

 

[mdavlee]

Ok. Guess we all have different goals here, which is fine.

Was thinking Nitro may explode anyway.

Chains being ground at Randy's or before hand?

Who supplies the 32" bar?

Honestly without class 3 I had no interest in building one. This class let some of us that get bored with worksaws something to build and join in with everyone else.

Chain is going to be new off the roll for the other classes. I've got 1 32" .050" es wide nose and give Randy another one just like it a few years back. There's several others that will have bars I'm sure. I need to start on my chain now for that class probably. 105 dl is a good bit of chain to work over.

 

[Deets066]

I'd be suprized if there were any nitro saws anyway

 

[mdavlee]

I'd be suprized if there were any nitro saws anyway

Me too for that class. I hope to have 2 for the racing.

 

[Mastermind]

Class three is just a "let it all hang out" class. I wanted to allow any fuel so that if a builder tailored his saw to run on a certain fuel, it wouldn't be handicapped by having to run on pump gas.

 

[hseII]

Hello, new guy here hoping to get added to the list for the 066/MS660 clone. Watched the vids of the bolt by bolt from a member here. I'm currently rebuilding two 362's and getting ready to start on two 192t's. This looks like a solution to my need for a very occasional big wood saw.

ETA:. Just noticed Chainsaw Conservation Components. I bought some OEM parts for the 362's for his eBay store.

Don't let that guy on your lawn with a Saw.

 

[hseII]

You mean Ol Sod Cutter?

See?

 

[paragonbuilder]

I see the chains being the big separator in class 3. I think some guys don't want to bother building as strong a saw as they can, only to be humiliated by a mediocre saw with a superior chain. Not many guys know how to file a race chain, never mind then setting it up for a particular saw and wood.
It may keep some from building a saw for this class, which is a shame cuz who knows what cool things guys may come up with.

That being said, I don't care where I come in, so I'll be building for all 3 classes if I can. I'm going to try like hell!

 

[Mastermind]

I see the chains being the big separator in class 3. I think some guys don't want to bother building as strong a saw as they can, only to be humiliated by a mediocre saw with a superior chain. Not many guys know how to file a race chain, never mind then setting it up for a particular saw and wood.
It may keep some from building a saw for this class, which is a shame cuz who knows what cool things guys may come up with.

That being said, I don't care where I come in, so I'll be building for all 3 classes if I can. I'm going to try like hell!

I'm gonna stick with Class 2. I'm a firm believer that a guy needs to do one thing......and try to do it well. So I plan to lose well.

 

[T.Roller]

I see the chains being the big separator in class 3. I think some guys don't want to bother building as strong a saw as they can, only to be humiliated by a mediocre saw with a superior chain. Not many guys know how to file a race chain, never mind then setting it up for a particular saw and wood.
It may keep some from building a saw for this class, which is a shame cuz who knows what cool things guys may come up with.

That being said, I don't care where I come in, so I'll be building for all 3 classes if I can. I'm going to try like hell!

I could be wrong but I'd imagine if someone can build an all out race saw they can also make a chain, if not they know someone who can.

 

[paragonbuilder]

I could be wrong but I'd imagine if someone can build an all out race saw they can also make a chain, if not they know someone who can.

I'm just speaking from what some have said off forum. And when a guy who can file a great race chain says he needs to start now, 7-8 months out... That's intimidating!

 

[paragonbuilder]

I'm just speaking from what some have said off forum. And when a guy who can file a great race chain says he needs to start now, 7-8 months out... That's intimidating!

Mike, that was a compliment! [emoji6]