Trees you've cut

[TheDarkLordChinChin]

Interesting heartwood on that one, we rarely see that in white ash here.
Also, glad to see the Deutz in the 3rd pic, saw the smallish van and rope in the 1st one and thought you were being perhaps a bit optimistic!
Pretty work

Yeah the deutz is an animal. It's very heavy and always had traction. It's getting a full rebuild soon.
Most old ash trees have that heartwood pattern here. That tree had 175 growth rings by my count.

 

[davidwyby]

@TheDarkLordChinChin makes this my fave thread...after Forestry and logging pics thread.

 

[Wolverine]

 

[TheDarkLordChinChin]

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It's fun and scary dealing with trees like that.
This was a beech we did a while back

 

[davidwyby]

It's fun and scary dealing with trees like that.
This was a beech we did a while back

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I should come visit my cousin and come whack some trees with ya

 

[Hinerman]

Fcuk ton of timber

When did you drop the metric system and switch to the 'Merican system of weights and measurements?

 

[jacktheripper]

When did you drop the metric system and switch to the 'Merican system of weights and measurements?

I think he means a metric fcuk ton. Different than your standard fcuk ton.

 

[Wolverine]

It's fun and scary dealing with trees like that.
This was a beech we did a while back

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More scary than fun.. It was a heavy leaner, leaning directly away from the camera in the first pic. I'm just glad it went as planned.

 

[TheDarkLordChinChin]

When did you drop the metric system and switch to the 'Merican system of weights and measurements?

Never really used metric system.
Growing up everything was miles, stone, pounds, inches. Metric only really became a thing here in the 2000s. Don't hear many people younger than 20 using older measurements.
It's funny. All older tradesmen use imperial measurements but everything is supplied in metric measurements.




And yes, fcuk ton and cnut hair are units of measurements.

 

[TheDarkLordChinChin]

Heavy leaning dead ash.
Still went sideways But moved forward enough to clear a ruined shed the land owner wanted to rebuild.

I would have liked to get the rope higher but didn't trust the timber not to snap with it being so dead. I also had to cut the tree high to avoid hitting wire.






Sizwill.






It helped.



Peeled a bit but not as much as I was hoping.




Tore up rather than down

 

[TheDarkLordChinChin]

Heavy leaning dead ash.
Still went sideways But moved forward enough to clear a ruined shed the land owner wanted to rebuild.

I would have liked to get the rope higher but didn't trust the timber not to snap with it being so dead. I also had to cut the tree high to avoid hitting wire.


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Sizwill.


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It helped.

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Peeled a bit but not as much as I was hoping.

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Tore up rather than down

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Same job.


This big ash was hollow. I got a bit of a shock boring into nothing.





Ivy growing up though the cavity. Look at the slugs and mushrooms etc. Pretty cool.








The next tree right beside it was sound, apart from dieback.







We then cut a low hanging limb off this healthy ash to even the tree out.

 

[davidwyby]

@TheDarkLordChinChin hoping to generate some learning discussion - @Woodpecker @Catbuster @chiselbit @Normzilla

I’d wager the nick (red) maybe made it break off, and I think it would hold better if the vertical cut (green) was parallel to the grain - what say ye?

 

[Ketchup]

Looks like not enough was taken off the bottom of the face cut on the siz side and too much holding wood was left on that side as well. Was it pulled over with a rope?
Not judging, just analyzing. I’ve made far worse felling cuts and the tree still hit the ground. @TheDarkLordChinChin, I really enjoy your posts. It’s a lot like my own work but with lots of Ivy, grey skies and chipping into vans. It has changed my perspective on Ireland.

 

[davidwyby]

Perhaps a little swing Dutchman and double hinge aka shark gill action.

 

[Woodpecker]

@TheDarkLordChinChin hoping to generate some learning discussion - @Woodpecker @Catbuster @chiselbit @Normzilla

I’d wager the nick (red) maybe made it break off, and I think it would hold better if the vertical cut (green) was parallel to the grain - what say ye?

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I don’t have any use in my day to day in small yards for a siz or swing. I experimented with them in the woods a far bit, but I can pretty much accomplish the same result by staying late and nipping at the hinge to “steer” the fall. I’m confident in my ability to do that. I’m also confident in my ability to set up the siz and swing but the variable nature of wood has a tendency to throw a curveball occasionally into the works in my experience, and there’s really no room for extra variables in my urban work environment. Consequently I rarely use any of those techniques as an arborist.

To your point yes the situation may have been helped by having the cut along the green line be vertical. It also may have helped to nip the bark/cambium at the corner there (where the green line and red line meet). But then again maybe not.

Having said all that I did have early input when the x man developed the shark gills back in the day. It’s fantastic for woods that don’t like to bend/hing like white pine or Norway maple. I use it frequently when I’m aloft. It’s far more predictable than the other techniques you mentioned. That predictability is crucial for my safety and the integrity of my client’s property.

 

[TheDarkLordChinChin]

Looks like not enough was taken off the bottom of the face cut on the siz side and too much holding wood was left on that side as well. Was it pulled over with a rope?
Not judging, just analyzing. I’ve made far worse felling cuts and the tree still hit the ground. @TheDarkLordChinChin, I really enjoy your posts. It’s a lot like my own work but with lots of Ivy, grey skies and chipping into vans. It has changed my perspective on Ireland.

Maybe.
I agree with @Woodpecker though, the variable nature of timber throws lots of curveballs.
Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
Tree still landed where I expected, which was also where I wanted it.

 

[Ketchup]

Maybe.
I agree with @Woodpecker though, the variable nature of timber throws lots of curveballs.
Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
Tree still landed where I expected, which was also where I wanted it.

I couldn’t agree with you and @Woodpecker more. Domestic trees are very different than west coast production timber. The risks and obstacles are different. I’ve rarely used a Sizwell at work. The dynamics of how hinges close and how fibers peel is very relevant though.

Your shot there reminds me of an Ash I cut on my Dad’s property. I didn’t think I could steer it enough with the hinge so we pulled it with the truck. I left too much holding wood. It chaired about 6’ up and fell on the wrong side of another tree down hill of the target. It took 3 times as long to clean up and I was pretty embarrassed.
Dad double plunge cut the next one (with his 18”029 no less) and hit his target spike dead on.

I’ve barber-chaired two trees in 12 years. Both were Ash.