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Ivy tends to hide defects in the tree as well, making it hard to access.
This huge white oak was dropping its defects on muh pvc fence ........ ivy & all, down it went !

The ivy falls off as the wood is processed ........ this branch dropper is getting dropped into muh insert for heat this winter or next

easy peasy.
 

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Probably the 4th tree I've ever dropped myself.

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Me too, The rest are personally that I believe are trying to kill me. Especially that dam Charlie! He Stoll the handle again and the train keeps going ,NO WAY TO SLOW DOWN
 
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Is that you Daughter Kev? Nice lookin' kid Brother. Did you get a free gallon of red paint with those wedges? Hey man, I am not mouthing you off or anything. I most certainly wouldn't mouth a guy off that tough. Where do you think it went wrong for you? What happens out there Kev? Haha
My #3, she doesn’t mind helping someone do hard work, thank God she looks like her Mum !

In hindsight, a deeper humbolt would have made for less wedge pounding, but this tree had most of it’s weight hanging over that pvc fence ........ so I decided a shallow facecut and a sledgehammer was it.

Tough .......Jamie, these days I’m about as tough as an overcooked noodle.

OK, I’m sitting down, hit me with what went wrong, or what I should do differently next one ........
 
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My #3, she doesn’t mind helping someone do hard work, thank God she looks like her Mum !

In hindsight, a deeper humbolt would have made for less wedge pounding, but this tree had most of it’s weight hanging over that pvc fence ........ so I decided a shallow facecut and a sledgehammer was it.

Tough .......Jamie, these days I’m about as tough as an overcooked noodle.

OK, I’m sitting down, hit me with what went wrong, or what I should do differently next one ........
lol..
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You say "Mum" The British way, as I do. I don't see that much. British parents then Kev?
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Unusual to see all that 'red' on the stump but it is very unusual to see it on the butt of the tree. Too thick on the hinge for that particular wood.
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Depth was fine. Deeper cut is harder to wedge but it will tip quicker. Think about a tailgate of a truck (also best example for wedge placement also). The further you are away from the tailgate hinge then the easier it is to lift. Would you try to lift a heavy tailgate by the hinge? No of course we wouldn't so why would we not places wedges furthest from the hinge. So when you do a deep undercut then you are also shortening that LEVERAGE of that tailgate.
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Set all your wedges tight together.
Put your longer thickens ones to the outside of your swing (chasers) so they don't get in you way when you alternate. (So you hit that secondary and they always remain higher on the far) once you set one or two together then it's easy to set the rest. Now you can stand in one spot to hit your wedges.

In closing..I will just say..The reason is why some have rounded corners is so one can control them as they may pressure up on one side in different applications.
You could ask BBR but unfortunately one has to be smarter than the piece of plastic.
Seen him in action on vid...failed!
 
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British parents .......... nope, my Canabonics is strong as I work with a bunch of Canadians
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I was worried that the hinge was going to break and see the tree crash down on the fence as I trimmed up the backcut. I’ll measure that hinge thickness next time I take a walk back there.

What thickness of a hinge is ideal for that diameter of a white oak ?

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Wedge placement: the busted red hat was the original, then we doubled up on the orange Stihl wedges, then we pounded everything flush and kept doubling up to the outside ........ she finally went over. Unfortunately, I’ve never been able to pound 3 stacked wedges, so we decided to “ride the perimeter” tight. Take a look at the fatso pounding wedges ...... see their placement ?

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The “witness marks” show the wedges that did the most work
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Deep or shallow hinge ......... I think fulcrum, so to me, once I determine that I’m going to wedge it over, I decide where the pivot point (hinge) to be. A more centered fulcrum and a single wedge probably would have worked, however, I wanted to be sure I had the leverage to lift against the weight over the fence ......... in my eyes, pounding wedges was plan B, plan A was a tag line up high, but I couldn’t get a safe spot to use the Maasdam, and I’ve since ordered a couple of snatch blocks, watching that red head break pissed me off good.
 
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British parents .......... nope, my Canabonics is strong as I work with a bunch of Canadians
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I was worried that the hinge was going to break and see the tree crash down on the fence as I trimmed up the backcut. I’ll measure that hinge thickness next time I take a walk back there.

What thickness of a hinge is ideal for that diameter of a white oak ?

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Wedge placement: the busted red hat was the original, then we doubled up on the orange Stihl wedges, then we pounded everything flush and kept doubling up to the outside ........ she finally went over. Unfortunately, I’ve never been able to pound 3 stacked wedges, so we decided to “ride the perimeter” tight. Take a look at the fatso pounding wedges ...... see their placement ?

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The “witness marks” show the wedges that did the most work
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Deep or shallow hinge ......... I think fulcrum, so to me, once I determine that I’m going to wedge it over, I decide where the pivot point (hinge) to be. A more centered fulcrum and a single wedge probably would have worked, however, I wanted to be sure I had the leverage to lift against the weight over the fence ......... in my eyes, pounding wedges was plan B, plan A was a tag line up high, but I couldn’t get a safe spot to use the Maasdam, and I’ve since ordered a couple of snatch blocks, watching that red head break pissed me off good.

Looks real good to me Kevin! When I need the hinge to guide it, that is how thick I would leave it.
 

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A dead red oak. I was up about 60 ft in the crotch. The bigger top I was able to free drop but the other one had to be rigged and pulled in the desired direction.

After it was rigged a tug was given on the rope and I just about soiled my pants because I felt it cracking below my feet!

Go pro view.
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The big top that I was able to free drop.

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Ready to get the heck out of the tree!

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You can see the rope in the crotch that I repelled out of. There was a 6 ft section that was at and below my feet that desinigrated when it hit the ground. The whole inside of that section was punky. The outside about the first inch in was hard

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