Trees you've cut

[davidwyby]

@HumBurner yeah I thought about it and was going to come back and point that out. Coos is pretty much guaranteed no chair, but no directional control.

 

[Ketchup]

@HumBurner yeah I thought about it and was going to come back and point that out. Coos is pretty much guaranteed no chair, but no directional control.

I don’t see how it would prevent a barber chair. By cutting the cambium layer? Seems like as the triangle tears closer to the hinge it gets more and more likely.
But like I said, never done one. From what you guys are saying, I don’t expect I will.

 

[HumBurner]

I don’t see how it would prevent a barber chair. By cutting the cambium layer? Seems like as the triangle tears closer to the hinge it gets more and more likely.
But like I said, never done one. From what you guys are saying, I don’t expect I will.

By eliminating the wood that would otherwise allow for a barberchair.

 

[davidwyby]

I don’t see how it would prevent a barber chair. By cutting the cambium layer? Seems like as the triangle tears closer to the hinge it gets more and more likely.
But like I said, never done one. From what you guys are saying, I don’t expect I will.

You gotta read up on it a little bit over on treehouse, it’s a Beranek thing. It’ll make sense. It sounds crazy I know. *a coos is not a triangle cut, it’s a Mohawk. Basically hinge turned 90°.

 

[davidwyby]

HOW DOES A SHALLOW FACE INCREASE BARBER CHAIR POTENTIAL?

Someone on Treebuzz started a thread called "Why 1/3 notch depth?" ... Why 1/3 notch depth? - https://www.treebuzz.com/forum/threads/why-1-3-notch-depth.46614/ I have said for years that is one of the rules that has largely gone unquestioned and unexamined in the industry (along with the...

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See Marc's post about barberchair cause - splitting. Think of axle handle grain orientation, especially runout (the back cut creates runout) and fire wood splitting in relation to grain orientation.

 

[HumBurner]

HOW DOES A SHALLOW FACE INCREASE BARBER CHAIR POTENTIAL?

Someone on Treebuzz started a thread called "Why 1/3 notch depth?" ... Why 1/3 notch depth? - https://www.treebuzz.com/forum/threads/why-1-3-notch-depth.46614/ I have said for years that is one of the rules that has largely gone unquestioned and unexamined in the industry (along with the...

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See Marc's post about barberchair cause - splitting. Think of axle handle grain orientation, especially runout (the back cut creates runout) and fire wood splitting in relation to grain orientation.

There's also a post from Beranek and others from years back about Traditional Coos Bay and modifications to the cut. Definitely worth digging around for.


I edited my prior post for clarification and additional relevant info.

 

[HumBurner]

Also, don't forget the seldom used but at times necessary intentional-barberchair

 

[davidwyby]

Also, don't forget the seldom used but at times necessary intentional-barberchair

Oh, murphy....haha!


I'm working on a cut I might call an upside down chair.

 

[davidwyby]

That Coos Bay felling cut again!

During my day in the snow felling trees to widen the X-C ski trail I took out this little bowed over silver fir. It was too small to bore the back cut, and was so heavily loaded up with snow that I knew I'd be unlikely to get a face cut in it without pinching my bar. So I didn't put in my...

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Beranek's Coos Bay felling cut vs. Burnham's

Jerry, I was very interested to note in your Fundamentals that the method you describe for forming this felling cut is somewhat different than that I was taught. You put no face cut in at all, just take a third of the diameter off each side, parallel to the head lean...then cut hell for...

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[HumBurner]

Oh, murphy....haha!


I'm working on a cut I might call an upside down chair.

Is that a combination of "oh mercy" and Murphy's Law?


I look forward to seeing the theory, but am wary of the practice!


The most fun trees are usually preceded by, "I don't know exactly where this one's gonna end up!"
(Slash-cutting tall trees out of a canopy)

 

[davidwyby]

Is that a combination of "oh mercy" and Murphy's Law?


I look forward to seeing the theory, but am wary of the practice!


The most fun trees are usually preceded by, "I don't know exactly where this one's gonna end up!"
(Slash-cutting tall trees out of a canopy)

Referring to Daniel Murphy on YT, Murphy4trees. He's always being lambasted by the other pros for showing off and doing crazy stuff like chairs.

 

[HumBurner]

Referring to Daniel Murphy on YT, Murphy4trees. He's always being lambasted by the other pros for showing off and doing crazy stuff like chairs.

Ahhhh, I see. Never heard of him.

But in all seriousness, chairs are good for not losing trees over drop-offs/ditches/ravines.

Knowing what you're doing and why makes all the difference in what would otherwise be a foul and pause for review.


I had an English teacher who would say, "when you know the rules is when it's okay to knowingly break the rules. " The same applies in the woods. Following the rules to a T will get you hurt or killed.

 

[davidwyby]

Follow the rules of wood and physics.

 

[davidwyby]

I think I got most of it but had to add to the description that it’s mainly for limbs and trees too small to bore/trigger. It’s also faster. GF Beranek has a story about felling a whole strip this way.

 

[davidwyby]

 

[HumBurner]

Made more progress on the dying madrone this afternoon. Face cut was a PITA because I needed to keep the stumps to land and wedge the trunk in for easier bucking (loose slope, cardboard, rocks....don't ask....), and I had the far side of the back cut a little high; but, it all worked fine and dandy. Had some back lean and downhill limb-weight, but wasn't major enough to worry over with the line. About a 50% deep face. Wanted to keep the wood in line/uphill of the trunk and largely succeeded.

Some of it is additional firewood for this year, and the rest for 24/25.

 

[HumBurner]

I keep forgetting to put the dawg back on the saw!

 

[TheDarkLordChinChin]

A good size ash from Wednesday.

 

[TheDarkLordChinChin]

Some Sitkas,

 

[davidwyby]

If it ain’t one thing it’s another