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Stumping saw question - 395xp vs MS661

28-40" hardwood- would you run a Ported 395 or a Ported MS661?


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Y'all are killing me! So some clarification: By felling I mean 1-3 large trees a day, on ranches/farms (when I can go cut as that's a side gig for me), where I can usually drive to w/in no more than about 100yds out and don't have to physically pack all of the extra crap that a logger needs on a remote landing. Hell, half the time the truck is w/in 20 yds or less with all of the req'd support gear. Having played with 084s, 088's/880s, 3120s and 2100's, SP125C's, 797's etc, I don't mind the weight as it's neither a daily thing, nor even a full day's use on any given day. Most days, when I fire up the 9010, or when I fired up my old MS660, I'd only run from 1-4 tanks max. After that the wood was just too small to justify and that's where the 40-60cc saws come into play. I'm just at the point, that though I love my ported 372, by the time I'm putting down Dad's 262xp from @Mastermind or my 562, I'm looking for about 3-5+ steps further up the ladder than the 372 can give me in Hedge and ultimately I want to run .404 for the additional cutter material and working edge material. So, realistically it would be a felling, stumping and large round noodling saw, which I could do with three different tools, or I could find a 75%+ solution to all 3 problems. I also usually have tractor support of some kind so there's that...

From the sound of it, a 395 it will be and if/when I find a smoking deal on a 390 or a 661, or an aforementioned 100+cc Husky or Mac comes along, I may do that too, purely out of want, not need. It's nice to have an assortment of options, when things go T.U.

I do truly appreciate the various points of view on Both sides, and @MustangMike - Don't let'em give you too' much crap, my old MS660 was one of the finer saws I've ever had. A truck fire claimed it, or I would still have it, though it would have been ported by now! It was dead reliable, easy to start and while it never "excited me" like many huskies do, it just plain worked and always had a bit of reserve. For how I use tools, that's no small praise! The 9010 is the same, but I'd like to sell it while it's still effectively worth half-decent money and put that towards a long-term solution.
 

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Y'all are killing me! So some clarification: By felling I mean 1-3 large trees a day, on ranches/farms (when I can go cut as that's a side gig for me), where I can usually drive to w/in no more than about 100yds out and don't have to physically pack all of the extra crap that a logger needs on a remote landing. Hell, half the time the truck is w/in 20 yds or less with all of the req'd support gear. Having played with 084s, 088's/880s, 3120s and 2100's, SP125C's, 797's etc, I don't mind the weight as it's neither a daily thing, nor even a full day's use on any given day. Most days, when I fire up the 9010, or when I fired up my old MS660, I'd only run from 1-4 tanks max. After that the wood was just too small to justify and that's where the 40-60cc saws come into play. I'm just at the point, that though I love my ported 372, by the time I'm putting down Dad's 262xp from @Mastermind or my 562, I'm looking for about 3-5+ steps further up the ladder than the 372 can give me in Hedge and ultimately I want to run .404 for the additional cutter material and working edge material. So, realistically it would be a felling, stumping and large round noodling saw, which I could do with three different tools, or I could find a 75%+ solution to all 3 problems. I also usually have tractor support of some kind so there's that...

From the sound of it, a 395 it will be and if/when I find a smoking deal on a 390 or a 661, or an aforementioned 100+cc Husky or Mac comes along, I may do that too, purely out of want, not need. It's nice to have an assortment of options, when things go T.U.

I do truly appreciate the various points of view on Both sides, and @MustangMike - Don't let'em give you too' much crap, my old MS660 was one of the finer saws I've ever had. A truck fire claimed it, or I would still have it, though it would have been ported by now! It was dead reliable, easy to start and while it never "excited me" like many huskies do, it just plain worked and always had a bit of reserve. For how I use tools, that's no small praise! The 9010 is the same, but I'd like to sell it while it's still effectively worth half-decent money and put that towards a long-term solution.
Just pick one. You won't be disappointed either way.
 

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Y'all are killing me! So some clarification: By felling I mean 1-3 large trees a day, on ranches/farms (when I can go cut as that's a side gig for me), where I can usually drive to w/in no more than about 100yds out and don't have to physically pack all of the extra crap that a logger needs on a remote landing. Hell, half the time the truck is w/in 20 yds or less with all of the req'd support gear. Having played with 084s, 088's/880s, 3120s and 2100's, SP125C's, 797's etc, I don't mind the weight as it's neither a daily thing, nor even a full day's use on any given day. Most days, when I fire up the 9010, or when I fired up my old MS660, I'd only run from 1-4 tanks max. After that the wood was just too small to justify and that's where the 40-60cc saws come into play. I'm just at the point, that though I love my ported 372, by the time I'm putting down Dad's 262xp from @Mastermind or my 562, I'm looking for about 3-5+ steps further up the ladder than the 372 can give me in Hedge and ultimately I want to run .404 for the additional cutter material and working edge material. So, realistically it would be a felling, stumping and large round noodling saw, which I could do with three different tools, or I could find a 75%+ solution to all 3 problems. I also usually have tractor support of some kind so there's that...

From the sound of it, a 395 it will be and if/when I find a smoking deal on a 390 or a 661, or an aforementioned 100+cc Husky or Mac comes along, I may do that too, purely out of want, not need. It's nice to have an assortment of options, when things go T.U.

I do truly appreciate the various points of view on Both sides, and @MustangMike - Don't let'em give you too' much crap, my old MS660 was one of the finer saws I've ever had. A truck fire claimed it, or I would still have it, though it would have been ported by now! It was dead reliable, easy to start and while it never "excited me" like many huskies do, it just plain worked and always had a bit of reserve. For how I use tools, that's no small praise! The 9010 is the same, but I'd like to sell it while it's still effectively worth half-decent money and put that towards a long-term solution.
Yesterday I flush cut 3 decent stumps 36"+ with muh M/M 660 32"/.404. I don't use it everyday but when I do it reminds me how good of a saw it is. Hit the throttle & the chain turns in all situations. Torque is king for me.
 

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Y'all are killing me! So some clarification: By felling I mean 1-3 large trees a day, on ranches/farms (when I can go cut as that's a side gig for me), where I can usually drive to w/in no more than about 100yds out and don't have to physically pack all of the extra crap that a logger needs on a remote landing. Hell, half the time the truck is w/in 20 yds or less with all of the req'd support gear. Having played with 084s, 088's/880s, 3120s and 2100's, SP125C's, 797's etc, I don't mind the weight as it's neither a daily thing, nor even a full day's use on any given day. Most days, when I fire up the 9010, or when I fired up my old MS660, I'd only run from 1-4 tanks max. After that the wood was just too small to justify and that's where the 40-60cc saws come into play. I'm just at the point, that though I love my ported 372, by the time I'm putting down Dad's 262xp from @Mastermind or my 562, I'm looking for about 3-5+ steps further up the ladder than the 372 can give me in Hedge and ultimately I want to run .404 for the additional cutter material and working edge material. So, realistically it would be a felling, stumping and large round noodling saw, which I could do with three different tools, or I could find a 75%+ solution to all 3 problems. I also usually have tractor support of some kind so there's that...

From the sound of it, a 395 it will be and if/when I find a smoking deal on a 390 or a 661, or an aforementioned 100+cc Husky or Mac comes along, I may do that too, purely out of want, not need. It's nice to have an assortment of options, when things go T.U.

I do truly appreciate the various points of view on Both sides, and @MustangMike - Don't let'em give you too' much crap, my old MS660 was one of the finer saws I've ever had. A truck fire claimed it, or I would still have it, though it would have been ported by now! It was dead reliable, easy to start and while it never "excited me" like many huskies do, it just plain worked and always had a bit of reserve. For how I use tools, that's no small praise! The 9010 is the same, but I'd like to sell it while it's still effectively worth half-decent money and put that towards a long-term solution.

Sounds like you will be fine with whichever saw happens to come your way. Should give you more options for finding a good deal.
 
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I have run 066, 660, 661, 385, 390, 394, 395, 9010 and 2100. All in various ‘build’ configurations from stock to “Insane”. If it were me and I had to choose one to stump and do occasional fell with; it would be a 395. Yes, the 661 is more nimble and better for felling, no argument. But, for reliability and torque grunt I would go with a ported 395. As previously stated its heavier, but that isn’t a disadvantage when stumping. The torque curve (especially when ported properly) is wider and more forgiving, the outboard clutch SHOULD dissipate heat better, in my experience they oil better and balance isn’t an issue.

Just my $0.02.

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While I am not 100% on this, I believe what Mason meant was that the clutch on a 395 has a more positive engagement and is less likely to slip under load than the clutch on the Stihl.
Yes that is what I meant. Aggressive = engages early and stays engaged when lugged down low. Forgiving of heavy duty in a nutshell.
 
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