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It’s just nice to be able to run 20/24” 372 bars on a 562 and 20/24” 7900 bars on a 6100 if needed. Can run stihl large mount on husky/dolkita large mount with adaptors. Opens up a lot of options. Simplifys things. Not that small mount is a complete deal breaker...
 
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Don't really care about faster saws, but if I could cut bigger wood with smaller/lighter I am all for it. The old/slow 115 still puts the biggest smile on my face. Lotta history there.

Yep gotta agree there 30+ yrs and still going strong
 

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The 562 is a touch smaller and lighter than 6100 and it has a large mount. Not saying the 562 is better or the 6100 worse. What I’m trying to say is I think if they changed the studs to large mount it would hardly add weight. The small mount limits bar options.

This ^^^^. It'd be nice to use the same bar on all versus buying different bar configs for all.

Also D009 + adapter = Stihl 3003 mount. A lot of options available for the D009.
 

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Does anybody know if any of the builders re-work the reed system on the 6100?

Every time I look at that strato induction system I want rip into it with a double handful of different reeds and see what I could get out of it.
I spread the cage a little so reed travel wasn’t limited. But since there really isn’t any fuel flowing through the reeds I don’t see much gain there.
 

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I spread the cage a little so reed travel wasn’t limited. But since there really isn’t any fuel flowing through the reeds I don’t see much gain there.

Getting more fuel in is easy, just tweak the carb. However, the hard part is getting air in there to burn the fuel (like with turbos, superchargers).

Reed valves have weird characteristics. At low RPM they can have timing like a rotary valve engine, but at high RPM the operate more like piston-port engine. That's because the reed has mass and isn't as responsive to opening and then doesn't want to close immediately. I'd like to get them to operate more like a rotary valve engine at high RPM.

Maybe with a thin reed and reducing the gap of the reed stops it might work more like a rotary.

As it is with the piston-port engine, there is a 'dead' time (no intake flow) from transfer closing to intake port opening. A responsive reed may be able to flow during that period so that the crankcase gets a better fill.

I expect that the factory tried various reeds to see what worked best. As usual, commercial considerations came into the picture and the reed chosen may likely not be the reed that produces the best power. - Perhaps the best reed for power only lasted 100 hours of run time. Choosing that reed would be a commercial disaster as the saw would gain a reputation as being unreliable, so they went with a reed that gave 1000 hours of use and sacrificed some power.

I'd love to get a hold on their research to see what results they got.
 

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Wonder what would happen if you just left the reeds out. Would it run like you had an air leak?

The strato port would never close and when the piston started compressing the crankcase the mixture would go right out the strato port.

I wish there was a lightweight way to incorporate a rotary valve on a chainsaw. Perhaps the closest configuration would be something like on a model airplane engine where the valve is cut into the crankshaft. However, the saw would not only be heavier, but a lot wider. The 6100 configuration appears to be the closest design we can get to a rotary valve induction system.
 
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