Pioneer/Partner p42hp build

[p61 western]

Worked on the P51 western yesterday, I have been trying to get spark from 3 coils. Baked them once for 2 hrs and no luck. Baked them again at 225 for 8 hrs.
On the 3rd try yesterday I got a nice spark from one. Checked it again and still was working I was pretty happy. Put the saw all together, gassed it up and it wouldn't fire, checked plug and no spark, lots of fuel flowing in.
Pretty frustrating, it's going back to the shelf until I find a different coil set up.

A 372 coil can be made to fit I believe.

 

[p61 western]

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Got a P42, checked it out yesterday, it will need a coil and maybe a new piston.
I will have to pull the cylinder off and clean it up.
I think someone forgot to mix the gas.

Might be a 6 port cylinder being a cbw.

 

[jacob j.]

Might be a 6 port cylinder being a cbw.

I've got one of those jugs somewhere but I think it's in the P-45 bore size - would that be a P-45CBW?

 

[p61 western]

I've got one of those jugs somewhere but I think it's in the P-45 bore size - would that be a P-45CBW?

Yep exactly Jacob. I have one here, but the plating is worn through. The w was a western like the older saws.

 

[Pioneer]

Yep exactly Jacob. I have one here, but the plating is worn through. The w was a western like the older saws.

I will find a 372 coil, thanks for that. I'm hoping the cylinder is ok.

 

[Pioneer]

Picked up a little saw today, $25 in good shape other than top cover , starts and runs good.

 

[Basher]

View attachment 225751 View attachment 225752 Picked up a little saw today, $25 in good shape other than top cover , starts and runs good.

Good looking saw.
There are so many of them going into the dumpsters here these days, have been for the last 20 or so years that I don`t even pull them out any more. Shame though as most are not damaged much, its mostly the broken or missing airfilter covers, filters and fuel related bits that is the reason to dump them.

 

[Svlmustang]

Hers a look inside the cylinder before I put it on.View attachment 144644 View attachment 144645

Did u grind the fins? My p41 heat shield or back plate doesn't fit now

 

[p61 western]

Did u grind the fins? My p41 heat shield or back plate doesn't fit now

No not at all. Strange that you have this problem. Can you post a picture of it?

 

[Svlmustang]

No not at all. Strange that you have this problem. Can you post a picture of it?

 

[Svlmustang]

No not at all. Strange that you have this problem. Can you post a picture of it?

 

[p61 western]

I will check a couple of my cylinder shrouds. The cylinder isn't hitting the lower frame of the saw is it?

 

[Svlmustang]

Almost .... this has turned into more money than I ever wanted to spend on this saw. Ah well

 

[Pioneer]

Fixed a pin on a farmsaw recoil, epoxy and a little piece of furnace filter soaked with the epoxy. It seems strong enough. Now to make the new wire spring with some 16 gauge piano wire.

 

[Svlmustang]

I will check a couple of my cylinder shrouds. The cylinder isn't hitting the lower frame of the saw is it?

Lemme know if u have any that will fit Mike. Thanks a bunch

 

[p61 western]

Lemme know if u have any that will fit Mike. Thanks a bunch

I still think the p41 shroud should work. I'm not sure if I have a p45 shroud here. I have plenty of the 5 and 6 cube shrouds though.

 

[Svlmustang]

I still think the p41 shroud should work. I'm not sure if I have a p45 shroud here. I have plenty of the 5 and 6 cube shrouds though.

Neither p41 or farmsaw will work. Tried them both. I'll take cylinder off and grind a couple fins down waiting on an intake gasket and coil anyway. The shroud will work then

 

[p61 western]

Neither p41 or 45 will work. Tried them both. I'll take cylinder off and grind a couple fins down waiting on an intake gasket and coil anyway. The shroud will work then

Something is up with that for sure. Could have been a defect that the fins are that big. It won't hurt grinding a little off anyway.

 

[Svlmustang]

Something is up with that for sure. Could have been a defect that the fins are that big. It won't hurt grinding a little off anyway.

I'll double check the part number when I take it off also one fin is touching the case that explains why I shocked myself trying to start it and the kill switch wouldn't work either

 

[Svlmustang]

Okay so I took the cylinder off. It is part 433768. Anybody able to look that up? That isn't the one that rottmans has listed for the kit but it is what they sent me. P61 do u happen to have taken a picture of your cylinder number?