Part Out Good Running Saw or Sell Whole?

[Moparmyway]

Dats a lot of flags

I wanted that saw and was willing to watch the first two flags flappin in the wind. Third flag was the straw that broke the back.

 

[Al Smith]

People play games trying to sell saws on line via flea bay or the forums .I once followed a 797 Mac go through 3 sellers who would not list a minimum price ,same picture same address .Never found out if it ever sold .
One smart azz in North Carolina listed an 088 Stihl on flea bay then pulled the bid the last 20 minutes just to see what it would bring .Turns out the dummy had later hogged out the muffler and cooked the piston trying to be a hot rodder following bad advice and 50 to 1 oil .Poetic justice .

 

[drf256]

Newcomers don’t seem to realize what a tight knit community we have here.

Any sale from a non-regular will launch an onslaught of PM’s/texts/emails almost instantly with other members.

Can’t blame a guy for wanting the most he can get for a saw, but private offers via PM when a seemingly public auction has begun is gonna leave a bad taste in people’s mouths. Especially when no one knows the seller personally, even if thought to be done with utmost honesty and integrity.

I was interested in this saw as well, but after hearing from at least 2 other members what was going on, decided to buy a saw from the same manufacturer with 3 less cc and more parts availability.

 

[Jeffbecky1]

Was that offer price or sold price on the parts?


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Just adding up some of the pieces it came out to over $900. I was quite shocked!

 

[Jeffbecky1]

This.

$500

 

[Jeffbecky1]

I'll try to bite my lip...

Stuff is only worth what someone will pay for it. Parts or whole saw.

Really sad to see a nice running saw like thst get parted out to fleece someone's pocket with dough.

If you're money hungry or don't feel you got fair market price then part it out.

Just curious, how much did you expect to get out of the saw? Highest bid in the thread reached $450 or higher didn't it? People asked you to list a price but you wouldn't do it. Maybe you have unrealistic expectations and didn't want to put a price on it?

$500

 

[Jeffbecky1]

Newcomers don’t seem to realize what a tight knit community we have here.

Any sale from a non-regular will launch an onslaught of PM’s/texts/emails almost instantly with other members.

Can’t blame a guy for wanting the most he can get for a saw, but private offers via PM when a seemingly public auction has begun is gonna leave a bad taste in people’s mouths. Especially when no one knows the seller personally, even if thought to be done with utmost honesty and integrity.

I was interested in this saw as well, but after hearing from at least 2 other members what was going on, decided to buy a saw from the same manufacturer with 3 less cc and more parts availability.

How is the auction supposed to work? I was quite honest when I started this that I had no idea how auctions worked on this site. I just assumed you communicated back and forth with interested buyers PM or otherwise. I'd rather just talk to someone on the phone or in person to avoid all the misunderstanding.

 

[CJ Brown]

There is another aspect to parting out that many do not consider, and that is: how valuable is your time?

How much time and money will you spend packing up 20-30 parts, and runnning to the Post Office 20-30 times? Then add in the time it takes to list your ads. Then time communicating with potential buyers + tire kickers. Then dealing with potential lost packages ( @Mattyo ). Then dealing with returns/complaints if selling on Feebay?

It is much much easier to sell whole to one person and move on with life.

 

[Jeffbecky1]

I've been biting mine so hard that its bleeding
Truth be told ............
1. At least one soliciting PM went out ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- First red flag
2. Accepted my offer, then he couldnt wait for payment, (so I was going to PP it that day,
didnt hear from him untill #3)------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Second red flag
3. Asked for more $$------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Third red flag

I bailed

How is the auction supposed to work? I was quite honest when I started this that I had no idea how auctions worked on this site. I assumed you communicated back and forth with interested buyers PM or otherwise. I'd rather just talk to someone on the phone or in person to avoid all the misunderstanding. I just asked if you were willing to pay for shipping. I didn't know that was going to kill the deal. If nothing else, we could have come to an agreement to split shipping costs. Unfortunately texting and emailing innocent questions doesn't always convey the true motivation or intent. Again, I apologize for my inept communication skills on this sale.

 

[Jeffbecky1]

There is another aspect to parting out that many do not consider, and that is: how valuable is your time?

How much time and money will you spend packing up 20-30 parts, and runnning to the Post Office 20-30 times? Then add in the time it takes to list your ads. Then time communicating with potential buyers + tire kickers. Then dealing with potential lost packages ( @Mattyo ). Then dealing with returns/complaints if selling on Feebay?

It is much much easier to sell whole to one person and move on with life.

True

 

[Marshy]

Just adding up some of the pieces it came out to over $900. I was quite shocked!

First: You can take any saw and pay almost twice it's MSRP price if you buy it in individual pieces to assemble. That does not mean an assembled and running saw is worth that much.

Second: This site is not for auctions. It's frowned upon if you don't list a saw with a sale price. It's the same way on AS. (Figured you would have picked up on that, the hints were there.) If you want to negotiate a price then you still list a price just say it's negotiable but you need to be clear up front who pays the shipping. It's either included in the sale price or additional to the sale. You could also say "I'll cover the first $Xx amount of the shipping" the rest is up to the buyer.

I'drather just talk to someone on the phone or in person to avoid all the misunderstanding.

How is written communication misunderstood?

 

[Jeffbecky1]

Through all this I have learned not to sell anything via text, email, PM. From now on I will only sell saws in person. Not worth the hassle of misunderstanding and hard feelings.

 

[Jeffbecky1]

First: You can take any saw and pay almost twice it's MSRP price if you buy it in individual pieces to assemble. That does not mean an assembled and running saw is worth that much.

Second: This site is not for auctions. It's frowned upon if you don't list a saw with a sale price. It's the same way on AS. (Figured you would have picked up on that, the hints were there.) If you want to negotiate a price then you still list a price just say it's negotiable but you need to be clear up front who pays the shipping. It's either included in the sale price or additional to the sale. You could also say "I'll cover the first $Xx amount of the shipping" the rest is up to the buyer.

I'm sorry for my novice

First: You can take any saw and pay almost twice it's MSRP price if you buy it in individual pieces to assemble. That does not mean an assembled and running saw is worth that much.

Second: This site is not for auctions. It's frowned upon if you don't list a saw with a sale price. It's the same way on AS. (Figured you would have picked up on that, the hints were there.) If you want to negotiate a price then you still list a price just say it's negotiable but you need to be clear up front who pays the shipping. It's either included in the sale price or additional to the sale. You could also say "I'll cover the first $Xx amount of the shipping" the rest is up to the buyer.


How is written communication misunderstood?

I'm just rather talk to someone in person. I'm sorry I did not pick up on the "hints". That was something I did not understand in these written communications. I apologize for all this mess and not knowing the ground rules. I'm just going to take the saw off the market and continue with my CAD!

 

[cus_deluxe]

Nothin wrong with just listing a price that you feel covers what you wanna get out of it. The only auctions on here that seem to end well are ones that are done for a cause (see stickies at top of this forum). Other than that, auctions are for ebay IMO. Glad youre stickin around this thread tho, lots of people will just bail under a little criticism.

 

[Marshy]

Yup, no hard feelings Jeff.

 

[Jeffbecky1]

Nothin wrong with just listing a price that you feel covers what you wanna get out of it. The only auctions on here that seem to end well are ones that are done for a cause (see stickies at top of this forum). Other than that, auctions are for ebay IMO. Glad youre stickin around this thread tho, lots of people will just bail under a little criticism.

Thanks, I understand everybody has an opinion. I just didn't get this thing started right from the beginning.

 

[drf256]

Thanks, I understand everybody has an opinion. I just didn't get this thing started right from the beginning.

It sounds like you honestly did have good intentions. Things can go awry quite easily on forums.

Generally, if one is to do an auction, it has to just be public with the understanding that no backhand/behind the scenes dealings will happen. You don't have alot of posts, nor does anyone here know you well. That always adds the fear of paying good money and never seeing the saw arrive. It's happened before, and it will happen again.

If you relist the saw, with all of the above here showing you are honest and things just didn't go as planned, you will likely have a smooth sale. Most of us that have sold here or on AS have had people PM us with a higher price than was agreed upon publicly with the other buyer. What one does in that situation defines their integrity, and whatever happens nearly always gets back to the masses.

 

[Mattyo]

There is another aspect to parting out that many do not consider, and that is: how valuable is your time?

How much time and money will you spend packing up 20-30 parts, and runnning to the Post Office 20-30 times? Then add in the time it takes to list your ads. Then time communicating with potential buyers + tire kickers. Then dealing with potential lost packages ( @Mattyo ). Then dealing with returns/complaints if selling on Feebay?

It is much much easier to sell whole to one person and move on with life.

UGH, where to start.

I've been rebuilding trashed saws for a while now. ...and selling them locally. Probably still haven't made any money. Takes me a long time to dissasemble the saw, clean, figure out what parts are needed, buy parts, research for better prices, assemble, mod, reassemble, start it, won't start, try again, get it to run, swap the coil 3x, etc etc...you get the idea. So, the odds of finding a money making opportunity in rebuilding saws is low to non existant.

Saws are worth more parted out... as a general rule. The only way I see to make money is to part out the saws, but then there is a time factor as well. Not just taking them apart and cleaning....how about sorting, organizing, and then listing the parts for sale? I list plenty of stuff for sale that doesn't sell... and then its just a waste of time.

Then there is the issue of single parts vs bundling. so many guys get stuck on shipping costs because they are kinda unreasonable. this is especially true the fewer items you order. a single item order is not very smart imho, from any vendor. (exceptions are rare items .... ie... a 288 hi top). I always try to bundle stuff when I order.... so ordering from guys like the bigger parts guys on ebay is helpful because they often have multiple things that I need for a particular saw. so, if you are selling multiple things from say, a 288, you are hopefully more likely for someone to buy a bundle of it. if you are selling (say on ebay) single items from multiple different saws you are more likely for people to get frustrated with the shipping costs.

my local supermarket is great at this.... moving product. they do stuff like BUY 1 get 2 FREE! sales. ... and they aren't really fooling anyone, but its a way to move more product. the more product is moved, the happier the seller for sure... means only one trip to the post office rather than multiples

INVENTORY, ugh. keeping track of stuff is near impossible. it just is. you have to be super organized if you are going to part things out.

as a general rule, I don't take apart good running saws. but, even a good running saw can need maintenance. so, if you are selling it, don't expect a premium unless you've really done your due diligence recently going through it.

relatively few saws are worth paying premiums for. the 298xp in the start of this thread is a cool saw, no question, but parts availability sux. i'm sure it'd be a fun saw to run, but if I had such a piece it'd probably stay on a shelf. in which case, price has to be reasonable or else it wont move.

 

[fearofpavement]

I have never parted out a good running saw. I have parted out saws that would have been runners but I didn't want to fix them.
I agree with Mattyo that saws are typically worth more parted out. I also agree with him how much work it is to do that. I had a bunch of 020T/MS200T stuff a while back that I tried to sell as a lot. Got shot down so I parted it out on eBay and got well over double what I would have received from a single sale. But the time/hassle involved in disassembling, taking pics, writing listings, packing and shipping, etc...
I think it would be an ideal side gig for someone that is both very organized (requires space for shelves and bins) and doesn't put a high value on their time. Like Mattyo, I also refurbish saws and sell them. However, I enjoy doing it so it is more of a "hobby" than a business. Parting saws (at least for me) is not a recreational activity and thus I expect some remuneration for doing it. Just not my cup of tea.

 

[Wilhelm]

I have no beef in this, but generally:
- the price is never high enough from the sellers point of view
- the price is rarely low enough from the buyers point of view

(Some of) These guys buy truckloads of saws at a time.
One shouldn't expect to get premium $ selling a saw here unless it is minty, a unicorn, ported by a reputable builder, or all three.

I just purchased about 250€ worth of (new OEM) parts to fix up my PS-7300, the whole used saw was about 275€.
One can not really compare whole saw prices to parts, it's a completely different thing.

If You already took the time to estimate "part-out value" I kinda doubt You'll settle for less $ than Your estimation.
Will You get that kinda cash here I don't really know nor care - if You do good for You.

No bashing of the OP and/or other forum members intended!

Cheers,
W.