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delete the abs *B-S....
I just ran that by my brain at 10 pm last night.
Need an equaliser block, an adjustable Willwood proportion valve or can the original be used by gutting the rest? Idk



Don't get me wrong ABS is nice and it suits most common drivers but it's not been my cup-a-tea Dally. I really hate this mfer right now. This can be soo frustrating to just deal with. The one Mike, cause Neil was busy when I called, told me flat out, "Kenny, me and you could be there for hours next week trying to get air out of it if the ABS went off when it blew out this time. Does not matter what happen before or how many times. Dood I'm telling you, yeah we're swamped, next week sometime." He feels my pain... could hear it in his voice. He don't want to see that truck this week, period! So at least I called the right shop first as they did thousands of these things I'm sure. Known these guys for forty years.

Who did eliminate their ABS and should the master cylinder be swapped out for a smaller or larger bore?...
Old age could set in searching the net.
Ain't that lucky this week.


I'm not even sure what size is currently in this thing now for a master cylinder. It has ten inch back brakes with the rear sensor in the transmission. Has a 310 K&H controller. I've never went backwards with brakes. I've put these setups and rear brake only ABS systems in street rods years ago. You swap the whole systems from one car to the other. Brakes, steering column, wiring harness so on and so forth. Patch it what you can and build off the rest of what you fit up. I can snag a 92' or
93' prop valve or at least peak at the earlier truck set up to see if it is a close swap. We have a Tahoe parked. That's my best guess after trying on the used 99' suburban parts truck unit. These things suck :mad:


When it pisses me off enough it will get parked and out comes the 350 super crew. Till then I'm all ears on doing a swap out
 
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I need some help finding a cheap scan tool for my ABS bleed.
Talked to my local shops, guys I know, and they say bring it in next week we're swamped. Well, I have no safe wheels to drive so...

1. Can I swap on a used 99' unit and make do... maybe.
2. Having a decent purge tool might still be needed.
3. I can swap on some used brake stuff fast and lose little fluid. Played that game a million times it seems like building street rods years ago.
4. Park the thing and just insure the F350 and drive it. Who knows when DMV will open though. the Ford needs a days work to be road ready. This truck a 97' 1500 4x4 needs a days work and more. This sucks. Lost two days so far and two 52" oak logs but plenty more waiting. Losing my mind with these brakes they just won't cut me any slack. Still nothing at the rear and no one seems to know a damn thing about these but to plug in a scanner to run a purge sequence or replace the unit if something has stuck. That seems lamb everything is rebuildable that I see in the diagrams.
@redline4
Don't you have to pull the abs fuse on these before you work on it
Or you can't purge the brake line's
Properly?
 

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I just ran that by my brain at 10 pm last night.
Need an equaliser block, an adjustable Willwood proportion valve or can the original be used by gutting the rest? Idk



Don't get me wrong ABS is nice and it suits most common drivers but it's not been my cup-a-tea Dally. I really hate this mfer right now. This can be soo frustrating to just deal with. The one Mike, cause Neil was busy when I called, told me flat out, "Kenny, me and you could be there for hours next week trying to get air out of it if the ABS went off when it blew out this time. Does not matter what happen before or how many times. Dood I'm telling you, yeah we're swamped, next week sometime." He feels my pain... could hear it in his voice. He don't want to see that truck this week, period! So at least I called the right shop first as they did thousands of these things I'm sure. Known these guys for forty years.

Who did eliminate their ABS and should the master cylinder be swapped out for a smaller or larger bore?...
Old age could set in searching the net.
Ain't that lucky this week.


I'm not even sure what size is currently in this thing now for a master cylinder. It has ten inch back brakes with the rear sensor in the transmission. Has a 310 K&H controller. I've never went backwards with brakes. I've put these setups and rear brake only ABS systems in street rods years ago. You swap the whole systems from one car to the other. Brakes, steering column, wiring harness so on and so forth. Patch it what you can and build off the rest of what you fit up. I can snag a 92' or
93' prop valve or at least peak at the earlier truck set up to see if it is a close swap. We have a Tahoe parked. That's my best guess after trying on the used 99' suburban parts truck unit. These things suck :mad:


When it pisses my off enough it will get parked and out comes the 350 super crew. Till then I'm all ears on doing a swap out
Get all four wheels off the ground......put a vacuum bleeder on one of the rear wheels. Have a helper put it in drive, then slightly tap the brakes while you work the bleeder. The difference in wheel speed front to back while braking should get the abs kicking around. Might actuate the solenoids enough to allow fluid flow to the rear.
 

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@redline4
Don't you have to pull the abs fuse on these before you work on it
Or you can't purge the brake line's
Properly?
Tried it already. I got nothing key off or running. Something is stuck in there.

ABS still works fine and no codes.

Pedal is almost floored and the front has a hard pedal way down low but works fine. Front pads are almost gone so a very low pedal is fine without the back working.

Weird... like it just has no fluid in the rear portion. No air, nothing.
 

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I need some help finding a cheap scan tool for my ABS bleed.
Talked to my local shops, guys I know, and they say bring it in next week we're swamped. Well, I have no safe wheels to drive so...

1. Can I swap on a used 99' unit and make do... maybe.
2. Having a decent purge tool might still be needed.
3. I can swap on some used brake stuff fast and lose little fluid. Played that game a million times it seems like building street rods years ago.
4. Park the thing and just insure the F350 and drive it. Who knows when DMV will open though. the Ford needs a days work to be road ready. This truck a 97' 1500 4x4 needs a days work and more. This sucks. Lost two days so far and two 52" oak logs but plenty more waiting. Losing my mind with these brakes they just won't cut me any slack. Still nothing at the rear and no one seems to know a damn thing about these but to plug in a scanner to run a purge sequence or replace the unit if something has stuck. That seems lamb everything is rebuildable that I see in the diagrams.

Get one of these off Amazon
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Then get the Torque lite app in the google play store.
 

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Get one of these off Amazon
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Then get the Torque lite app in the google play store.
I'd need obdII with bidirectional controls. Really don't even want one.
Going to get some oils and fluids then write off my day playing with it on crib blocks. Made up a manual front rear lock to bolt in years ago... then see how testing goes. The rear driveshaft might need to come out if one wheel off ground don't do it. Can vac out the foam and maybe get something moving before chasing my stash parts in the pines. I do plan on get another one of these out west with no rot. Drive it home when the time is right. Wanted a garage kept one old man owned 96 or 97. Prefer the sle z71 like mine. Maybe next summer.
 

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I just ran that by my brain at 10 pm last night.
Need an equaliser block, an adjustable Willwood proportion valve or can the original be used by gutting the rest? Idk



Don't get me wrong ABS is nice and it suits most common drivers but it's not been my cup-a-tea Dally. I really hate this mfer right now. This can be soo frustrating to just deal with. The one Mike, cause Neil was busy when I called, told me flat out, "Kenny, me and you could be there for hours next week trying to get air out of it if the ABS went off when it blew out this time. Does not matter what happen before or how many times. Dood I'm telling you, yeah we're swamped, next week sometime." He feels my pain... could hear it in his voice. He don't want to see that truck this week, period! So at least I called the right shop first as they did thousands of these things I'm sure. Known these guys for forty years.

Who did eliminate their ABS and should the master cylinder be swapped out for a smaller or larger bore?...
Old age could set in searching the net.
Ain't that lucky this week.


I'm not even sure what size is currently in this thing now for a master cylinder. It has ten inch back brakes with the rear sensor in the transmission. Has a 310 K&H controller. I've never went backwards with brakes. I've put these setups and rear brake only ABS systems in street rods years ago. You swap the whole systems from one car to the other. Brakes, steering column, wiring harness so on and so forth. Patch it what you can and build off the rest of what you fit up. I can snag a 92' or
93' prop valve or at least peak at the earlier truck set up to see if it is a close swap. We have a Tahoe parked. That's my best guess after trying on the used 99' suburban parts truck unit. These things suck :mad:


When it pisses me off enough it will get parked and out comes the 350 super crew. Till then I'm all ears on doing a swap out
what year Tahoe
 
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