Not So Pro 3

[JoeDirt]

Settled it then.
I'll never buy a GM product.
Probably never buy another vehicle made after 1996 TBH.
Automotive engineers that dreamed that *s-wordt up shouldnt be given praise. They should be given "country-style arse BEATINGS", and NEVER let back into the industry.
There have always been plenty of people who either lacked the specific skills, or the desire to repair their own vehicle.
Thats why people like you who have both of those qualities have a career.
There was absolutely no need for them to make things that Got-Damn hard for you!

John DeLorean admitted that GM lagged well behind Ford and just copied them for years.

lol future @JoeDirt

Meh, I honestly wish I liked GM but there are just too many reasons not to. The 11 billion dollar net loss the government took on them with your money should be enough to piss most people off. But if that isn't enough, they took that money, closed American factories and invested in China, among other places. Not that Ford and Chrysler haven't invested in China, but GM is 5 times as big as Ford in China despite being similar in size overall.

Ford is also privately owned (in part) so there is a least some interest in preserving the reputation of the company, unlike GM who gutted their own makes, completely abandoned any brand identities and become a shameless slut for their shareholders.

 

[Hundred Acre Wood]

John DeLorean admitted that GM lagged well behind Ford and just copied them for years.

Meh, I honestly wish I liked GM but there are just too many reasons not to. The 11 billion dollar net loss the government took on them with your money should be enough to piss most people off. But if that isn't enough, they took that money, closed American factories and invested in China, among other places. Not that Ford and Chrysler haven't invested in China, but GM is 5 times as big as Ford in China despite being similar in size overall.

Ford is also privately owned (in part) so there is a least some interest in preserving the reputation of the company, unlike GM who gutted their own makes, completely abandoned any brand identities and become a shameless slut for their shareholders.

And killed at least 124 people over a 57 cent part as they admitted to in their court settlement.

They all pinch pennies... people are free to buy whatever they want/need/works for them. But I won't buy a GM. There's other American made choices for me.

 

[JoeDirt]

And killed at least 124 people over a 57 cent part as they admitted to in their court settlement.

They all pinch pennies... people are free to buy whatever they want/need/works for them. But I won't buy a GM. There's other American made choices for me.

Also, the "Real People, Not Actors" Chevy commercials could be the focus of a case study on bad marketing.

Okay I'm done now

 

[Mastermind]

Fugh all this GM bashing, I'm going to bed.

 

[Kiwioilboiler]

I heard he’s moving to Tennessee

He's got to get out of his daughters trunk first.

 

[Lnk]

Good morning men, while GM has its problems, at least they have one good mechanic/technician. So there is that.

Rain holding off today, for some reason. Going to 73.

 

[41FanForLife]

Morning ladies. Mouth feeling much better after the bad toof was yanked yesterday. Dr had it outta there really quick and didn't have to stand on my sack to git r done.

 

[Crzybowhntr]

Morning fellas.

Frost all over everything this morning but it`s supposed to get up into the mid-70`s.

 

[GCJenks204]

Morning / Evening All. I say the eyeballs are only creepy if the are closer to the ground and don’t react to your movements or sound…

 

[redline4]

GM products are cost engineered to the penny for manufacturing. Everything else is secondary. Including lives.

GM slammed at hearing for failing to address 57-cent defect linked to deaths

Members of Congress tore into GM management during a heated Capitol Hill hearing probing fatal car wrecks linked to a defective part, claiming people died because the auto giant failed to fix what amounted to a 57-cent problem.

www.foxnews.com

I did a lot of those recalls.
Have yet to hear of anyone who actually had the issue.
But I can also confirm thr vast majority of people who had those vehicles were the type who had 2 keys, 5 lanyards, 4 name tag trinkets, a flashlight and 2 Swiss army knives hanging on their key ring.
It was more of a weight/inertia issue than anything.
When the customer got their vehicle back they were given the car key with the remote fob on its own ring.
Not saying GM hasn't or doesn't do some stupid shìt, but that one was blown way out of proportion by the media.

 

[Loony661]

Good morning guys. Snowed overnight again, currently 33 and climbing to 39 later.

 

[Hundred Acre Wood]

I did a lot of those recalls.
Have yet to hear of anyone who actually had the issue.
But I can also confirm thr vast majority of people who had those vehicles were the type who had 2 keys, 5 lanyards, 4 name tag trinkets, a flashlight and 2 Swiss army knives hanging on their key ring.
It was more of a weight/inertia issue than anything.
When the customer got their vehicle back they were given the car key with the remote fob on its own ring.
Not saying GM hasn't or doesn't do some stupid shìt, but that one was blown way out of proportion by the media.

That's what I read too. It was the weight of the giant key rings in the ignition that caused it to turn off. The media hype wasn't because of the defect. It was because GM knew about the defect, knew about the danger, and didn't fix it. And accident investigators pinned it on the ignition. That's why GM had to settle in court for millions.

I have nothing but respect for the good men and women working every day on GM products. They have nothing to do with what caused this. But the bean counters who chose profit over lives lost my business.

I'm off my high horse. Enough said.

 

[Woodrow]

Good morning fellas.

 

[Mastermind]

Good morning men.

 

[redline4]

The sun came out briefly.
Made the ice on the trees light up.

 

[dall]

He's got to get out of his daughters trunk first.

I guess I’m not following

Morning ladies. Mouth feeling much better after the bad toof was yanked yesterday. Dr had it outta there really quick and didn't have to stand on my sack to git r done. View attachment 366724

He’s a slacker

I did a lot of those recalls.
Have yet to hear of anyone who actually had the issue.
But I can also confirm thr vast majority of people who had those vehicles were the type who had 2 keys, 5 lanyards, 4 name tag trinkets, a flashlight and 2 Swiss army knives hanging on their key ring.
It was more of a weight/inertia issue than anything.
When the customer got their vehicle back they were given the car key with the remote fob on its own ring.
Not saying GM hasn't or doesn't do some stupid shìt, but that one was blown way out of proportion by the media.

I still get recall papers for the Monte
Never worried about it because I only had one single key in the ignition
The button to release the trunk and unlock doors would be in my pocket
These companies are all bad on taking responsibility for their junk

 

[Czed]

I did a lot of those recalls.
Have yet to hear of anyone who actually had the issue.
But I can also confirm thr vast majority of people who had those vehicles were the type who had 2 keys, 5 lanyards, 4 name tag trinkets, a flashlight and 2 Swiss army knives hanging on their key ring.
It was more of a weight/inertia issue than anything.
When the customer got their vehicle back they were given the car key with the remote fob on its own ring.
Not saying GM hasn't or doesn't do some stupid shìt, but that one was blown way out of proportion by the media.

I had several gm vehicles with those recalls I never took them in because I never had any issues.
Now my friend totalled 2 Toyota sienna vans because the key immobilizer which would randomly shut the vehicle off
While driving I'm not sure which year models this was
The first time it happened on the interstate she was hit from behind and didn't realize what caused the van to shut off
It was only a few months old.
The second time her husband was driving the replacement van about a year later and it shut off on a gravel road and he couldn't keep control and hit a rock.
They actually bought have another sienna but no issues yet
She has probably 25 keys and fobs and trinkets on a massive key ring I'm sure that led to her issues but she never changed it.

 

[redline4]

I guess I’m not following

He’s a slacker

I still get recall papers for the Monte
Never worried about it because I only had one single key in the ignition
The button to release the trunk and unlock doors would be in my pocket
These companies are all bad on taking responsibility for their junk

We get recall notices on my wifes last vehicle which we traded in in 2020 and was then wrecked on a test drive by one of our wash peoples senile mom.

 

[Czed]

We put in a power pole and anchored and strapped my great nephew's mobile home down
The power company is supposed to hook up service today.
I checked on my great nephew's property diversified makes a mess wherever they work.

 

[nbbt]

Good morning guys. Snowed overnight again, currently 33 and climbing to 39 later.

30f here, same conditions as south of here nearer the river. Cleared more than 2"s of rater damp stuff already, and by the time I was over it once there was another 1/2" of new. Guess I'll be gettin my steps and cardio today. At least the air smells fresh...