Handling Damaged Batteries

[Philbert]

“The Power Tool Institute has released a new video demonstrating how to properly handle a battery that’s in thermal runaway.

‘A lithium-ion battery that is too hot to touch, melting, smoking, or on fire may be in thermal runaway, which can be caused by misusing or abusing the battery, such as by dropping, puncturing, damaging, or exposing the battery to liquids’, according to a statement from the institute.”

“Lithium-ion batteries, when purchased by an OEM for their respective tools, are safe. More and more counterfeit and knock off batteries have appeared in the market and can cause serious issues, including fires.

As detailed in the video, the quickest way to cool down and stop an overheating lithium-ion battery is to immerse the battery in a sturdy container filled with water and keep it there for 24 hours.“

Philbert

 

[Philbert]

This is at least somewhat surprising to me, because I know that Lithium reacts with air, and elements like Sodium react violently with water.

Generally, I would want to isolate the damaged battery on a piece of concrete, or bare ground.

But, they are ‘the experts’ as far as power tool batteries, so, I guess this is what to do.

The ‘24 hour’ thing is interesting too.

Philbert

 

[Philbert]

I checked with a firefighter friend, and someone ’in the industry’, and they both indicated that the recommendations in the video appear valid.

Philbert

 

[EFSM]

I have heard of firefighters having to bury a burning EV that they couldn't extinguish. The problem is that you can extinguish a lithium-ion battery with water and it could light again, be it hours or weeks (Nikola semi's did this). In my opinion, the future of large lithium batteries is not very bright at this point.

 

[Sloughfoot]

Yeh, they've gotten much better but still have their issues. I use them a lot and only issue I still have is not taking a charge when cold. Only have them get hot to touch when cold as well.

 

[Philbert]

I have heard of firefighters having to bury a burning EV that they couldn't extinguish.

Yeah, I’m not offering any advice on smoldering Teslas.

But I have used Li-ion OPE for many years, and never heard anything like this. And they are extensively used in contractor type power tools, which are subject to lots of abuse.

Surprised that it has taken so long for the industry to get this recommendation out.

Hope I don’t need it, but good to know.

Philbert

 

[FederalQ]

An Asian country developed a fire blanket for burning EVs and I wonder if that has made it‘s was to the US fire service.

 

[RCBS]

Been wary of litium batts since I used to play with RC cars back in the day. We charged them in metal ammo cans as it was the most likely time that they would explode/combust.

 

[Philbert]

An Asian country developed a fire blanket for burning EVs and I wonder if that has made it‘s was to the US fire service.

A firefighter friend said that’s what they use for their initial response. Reignition of the batteries is a separate problem.

Philbert

 

[Philbert]

Laptop Battery Starts Fire on American Airlines Flight?

American Airlines flight from SFO to Miami evacuated after fire fills cabin with smoke

An American Airlines jet preparing to leave San Francisco International Airport for Miami had to be evacuated Friday after the aircraft's cabin filled with smoke from a fire onboard, airport officials said.

www.cbsnews.com

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[Philbert]

If we did not have enough to worry anout . . .

Washington Post article, today, noting how Li-ion batteries, including those in EVs, submerged in salt water, could ignite (!). 48 such fires reported in Florida, from Hurricane Helene (!).

Philbert

“When the powerful Milton makes landfall Wednesday night or early Thursday, it’s expected to generate devastating storm surge that could inundate coastal communities with up to 15 feet of saltwater in some areas. Saltwater is corrosive and leaving electric vehicles submerged in it could lead to the large lithium-ion batteries short circuiting and catching fire.

“Anything with those lithium-ion batteries needs to be moved out of the surge zones where it could be exposed to saltwater,” Cathie Perkins, Pinellas County’s emergency management director, said during a Wednesday morning briefing. Lithium-ion batteries are also used to power golf carts, electric bicycles and scooters”